How Can I Linearize the Complex Function z = (2+i)/(i(-3+4i))?

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The discussion revolves around the linearization of the complex function z = (2+i)/(i(-3+4i)). Participants are attempting to find the imaginary and real parts of z through various algebraic manipulations and simplifications. The conversation includes technical reasoning and mathematical expressions related to complex functions.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about their simplification process, noting discrepancies between their result and that from Wolfram Alpha.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on how the first participant arrived at their intermediate expression.
  • A different participant suggests separating the terms of the original function and manipulating them to find a common denominator, indicating a step-by-step approach to the problem.
  • One participant points out a potential error in the denominator of a derived expression, suggesting it should be (-7i+24) instead of (-5i+24).
  • Another participant introduces an alternative method using the identity (a+b)(a-b)=a²-b² to simplify the expression further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct simplification of the function, with multiple approaches and some identified errors in calculations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct form of z.

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There are limitations in the discussion, including potential missing assumptions in the algebraic manipulations and unresolved steps in the simplification process. The dependence on specific algebraic identities and the accuracy of intermediate results are also noted.

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so i have the function z=(2+i)/(i(-3+4i)) and i need to linearize it to find the Im(z) and Re(z)

I get down to z= (-6 +8i -3i -4 )/ (9i +12 +12 -16i) which i then simplify down to

z= (5i -10)/(-5i+24)

However when solve it i get a different answer from wolfram (from when i plugged z=(2+i)/(i(-3+4i))).

And when i try to equate

z= (-6 +8i -3i -4 )/ (9i +12 +12 -16i) and z= (5i -10)/(-5i+24)

wolfram tells me they are not equal. How do i do this question?
 
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craig16 said:
so i have the function z=(2+i)/(i(-3+4i)) and i need to linearize it to find the Im(z) and Re(z)

I get down to z= (-6 +8i -3i -4 )/ (9i +12 +12 -16i)

How did you get this?
 
Separate the top of the original function, cancels out an i.
Then make a common denominator and add the top of both functions.

z= 2/i(-3+4i) + i/i(-3+4i)

z= 2/(-3i-4) + 1/(-3+4i)

z= 2(-3+4i) / (-3i-4)(-3+4i) + 1(-3i-4)/(-3i-4)(-3-4i)

etc..
 
craig16 said:
so i have the function z=(2+i)/(i(-3+4i)) and i need to linearize it to find the Im(z) and Re(z)

I get down to z= (-6 +8i -3i -4 )/ (9i +12 +12 -16i) which i then simplify down to

z= (5i -10)/(-5i+24)

Well, in the step above, the denominator should not be (-5i+24) but (-7i+24).

Anyway, there is an easier way to do this using the equality (a+b)(a-b)=a2-b2:

z=\frac {2+i} {i(-3+4i)}=\frac {2+i} {-4-3i}=\frac {(2+i)(-4+3i)} {(-4-3i)(-4+3i)}=\frac {(2+i)(-4+3i)} {(-4)^2-(3i)^2}=\frac {(2+i)(-4+3i)} {16+9}=...
 

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