How Can I Purchase Pure Elements?

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The discussion revolves around the purchasing of pure chemical elements, specifically focusing on elements like Caesium, Neon, and Chlorine. Participants explore the requirements for obtaining these elements, including potential licensing and organizational affiliations, as well as the dangers associated with handling reactive elements like Caesium.

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  • One participant inquires about the process of purchasing pure elements and whether licenses or affiliations are necessary.
  • Another participant notes that the ability to purchase elements varies significantly depending on the specific element and its reactivity, citing that while helium is easily obtainable, plutonium is not.
  • It is mentioned that elemental Iron is easy to buy, whereas elemental Fluorine is much harder to obtain.
  • Concerns are raised about the dangers of dropping Caesium in water, with one participant suggesting that significant quantities could result in severe burns or worse outcomes.
  • A participant warns that even small amounts of Caesium can be extremely destructive and must be handled with care, ideally in a vacuum container.
  • Another participant compares the explosive potential of one gram of pure Caesium to that of a military-grade depth charge, emphasizing the extreme danger involved.
  • Rubidium is mentioned as a safer alternative, though still capable of causing significant explosions.
  • A participant references a blog about collecting pure elements and shares anecdotes related to handling reactive elements.

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Participants express varying degrees of concern regarding the dangers of handling Caesium and other reactive elements. There is no consensus on the specifics of purchasing elements, as the discussion highlights differing views on accessibility and safety.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach a definitive conclusion about the purchasing process for pure elements or the exact dangers associated with Caesium, leaving several assumptions and conditions unresolved.

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I want to know how one purchases pure elements. Like Caesium or Neon or Chlorine.

Do you need license to purchase some elements? Or do you need to be affiliated to some sort of organization?

Where is a site that has prices for the elements?

Just curious how one gets a hold of these things...


(Also -- don't feel like making a new thread since I'm rarely on -- what kind of damage would someone take if they dropped Caesium in water and stood right next to it?)
 
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You are going to have to be a whole lot more specific - All elements are different. You can easily buy a bottle of helium at any party store, but are unlikely to get your hands on a hunk of plutonium...

Cesium is highly reactive in water. Beyond that, there isn't much that can be said about what happens if you drop some in water.
 
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As Russ said, it is going to depend a lot of what specific element(s) you want to purchase (and also the purity). The ease of purchase, availability, cost, …, of purchasing elements is going to vary a lot…it is easy to buy elemental Iron, but hard to buy elemental Fluorine.

(Also -- don't feel like making a new thread since I'm rarely on -- what kind of damage would someone take if they dropped Caesium in water and stood right next to it?)
It would depend on how large of a piece of Cesium was used. But I would say that it if it was any significant quantity of Cs, then the (not-too-wise) person who dropped it in and stood next to it would be burned (possibly both chemically and due to the heat released by the reaction).
 
Many elemental substances can simply be purchased from a chemical supply company like Flynn Scientific or one of the others. Obviously depending on what element you are looking for, somethings require special licenses to transport/handle.

Even a tiny amount of Cs in water is extremely destructive. if you were standing next to it you would very likely be killed. Also, the atmospheric moisture is enough to set it off and it must be handled in a vacuum container or something similar. If you want to see an Alkali metal explode in water, use Sodium, it is still a spectacular demonstration but is FAR safer than anything more reactive. I think the british television show "Brainiacs" did an episode on Alkali Metals, you can probably find it on a google video search.
 
The Dangers Of Cesium.

One gram of pure Cesium has been estimated to have the same destructive force as a military grade depth charge. Military Grade Depth Charge = what the military used in WWII to sink German U-Boats. You would be completely obliterated and smeared across the walls of what ever room you were doing this in. It is obviously not advised to do such a thing. Rubidium is safer. One gram of Rb is like a hand grenade going off. It's less dangerous but still provides a wonderful explosion.
 
This should help clarify things: :wink:
 
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Drat! Now I can't find it. There's a blog out there somewhere of one man's trials and tribulations in assembling the largest collection of pure elements in the world, including his fascinating accounts of travels to palces like Russia to collect samples, and encounters with various American safety organizations.

Anyway, here is a link to the man who created the Periodic Table table. There are lots of stories there about his fun with Sodium and Cesium and such, inlcuding debunking what may very well be the demos talked about in the above posts.
 

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