How can I showcase my acting talent and stand out in Hollywood?

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The discussion revolves around the aspirations of an individual pursuing a career in acting, particularly in Hollywood, while balancing a background in physics. Participants explore various pathways to achieve success in acting, the challenges of the industry, and the potential integration of their academic background into their acting style.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to move to LA to pursue acting, questioning if this is the best approach.
  • Another participant cautions that many people come to California with similar dreams, but few achieve success, suggesting sending tapes and photos to agents instead.
  • There are inquiries about where to find agents and what resources are available, especially for someone not currently in the US.
  • Some participants highlight the competitive nature of the acting industry, comparing it to professional sports in terms of success rates.
  • One participant suggests starting in the European acting scene before aiming for Hollywood, while another emphasizes the importance of focusing on physics alongside acting.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential emotional toll of the acting industry, with references to its competitive and sometimes harsh environment.
  • There are discussions about the possibility of integrating physics into acting, with one participant expressing a desire to be a "rational actor."
  • Several participants mention the importance of networking and socializing within the industry, with some suggesting that success may depend on social dynamics as much as talent.
  • Humorous remarks are made about the types of roles and films that may be available, reflecting on the diversity of the industry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of views on the best approach to pursuing an acting career, with no clear consensus on the most effective path. There are differing opinions on the importance of networking, the viability of starting in Europe, and the integration of academic backgrounds into acting.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for practical steps, such as contacting the Screen Actors Guild, but there are unresolved questions about the feasibility of transitioning from academia to acting without restarting educational pursuits.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in pursuing acting, especially those with academic backgrounds in fields like physics, as well as those curious about the dynamics of the entertainment industry.

  • #31
Acting is the most boring kind of employment there is. The saying that is applied to film sets, "Hurry up and wait," is not a joke. There is eight hours of set up time for every minute of actual camera rolling time. Don't go into acting to alleviate boredom.
 
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  • #32
zoobyshoe said:
Acting is the most boring kind of employment there is. The saying that is applied to film sets, "Hurry up and wait," is not a joke. There is eight hours of set up time for every minute of actual camera rolling time. Don't go into acting to alleviate boredom.

sorry, but i think you missed the point of my previous post

marlon
 
  • #33
zoobyshoe said:
Acting is the most boring kind of employment there is. The saying that is applied to film sets, "Hurry up and wait," is not a joke. There is eight hours of set up time for every minute of actual camera rolling time. Don't go into acting to alleviate boredom.
That's not a problem for marlon. He's a smoker.. :approve:
 
  • #34
marlon said:
You know, this might sound strange but physics bores me so much sometimes. I really wonder if i have the patience needed for a scientific career. I mean, grades, college, degrees were never really any problem for me. I passed college with no severe problems and was able to combine it with teaching in the last two years. Physics is very interesting but sometimes i wonder about the use of a researching-career since i do realize i ain't no Einstein, you see ? I mean, how many scientists are there out there , that have been blasted into oblivion because of irrelevant work, eventhough they work at prestigious institutes all over the world. Or is this just juvenile lack of patience and wanting too much ? I have always been quite ambitious and several people have told me to calm down, but it does not feel good, you see?
Marlon - Actually, I can understand it. What I studied as an undergraduate in nuclear engineer and physics was boring as h***. It was simply basic stuff, and learning about and understanding what had already been done. In graduate school, MS stuff was more interesting, but not new. It wasn't until PhD studies that the work became really interesting. I didn't finish the PhD, but started a professional career.

My professional work has been very interesting. It mostly involves getting down to the fundamental undertanding of materials in an aggressive environment, and often finding why something fails to perform in its intended environment.

I'll be at a conference in a couple of weeks. There are some big challenges ahead, I will have some questions for you Physics guys when I get back. :biggrin:

Just saw arildno's post - both you guys should quit smoking.
 
  • #35
marlon said:
sorry, but i think you missed the point of my previous post
You think you have a better shot at celebrity as an actor than as a physicist? Roll the dice and take your chances!
 
  • #36
arildno said:
That's not a problem for marlon. He's a smoker.. :approve:
:smile: :smile:

yeah...that shouldn't be a problem, and in the worst case, i still have my Norwegian smoking buddy.

ps arildno : i think the wintergames of Lillehammer in 1994 where the best games ever. I really enjoyed the world records of Johann Olav Koss on the 5000 and 10000meters . As i recall, did he not also win the 1500m

and who can forget the achievement of Oksana Baioul in figure skating. I believe she was only 16 back then...

marlon
 
  • #37
zoobyshoe said:
You think you have a better shot at celebrity as an actor than as a physicist? Roll the dice and take your chances!

this is not about becoming famous man...please ...

marlon
 
  • #38
marlon said:
:smile: :smile:

yeah...that shouldn't be a problem, and in the worst case, i still have my Norwegian smoking buddy.

ps arildno : i think the wintergames of Lillehammer in 1994 where the best games ever. I really enjoyed the world records of Johann Olav Koss on the 5000 and 10000meters . As i recall, did he not also win the 1500m

and who can forget the achievement of Oksana Baioul in figure skating. I believe she was only 16 back then...

marlon
Not to mention the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan debacle..:wink:


More serious though: pursue your dream.
 
  • #39
arildno said:
Not to mention the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan debacle..:wink:

yeah, how could i forget? Do you know the name of the woman that sung at the opening ceremonies. She had a magical voice and i believe she is Norwegian. I also thought she once sang with Placido Domingo at one of the Christmass in Vienna-extravaganza's...I would like to know her name

More serious though: pursue your dream.
Thanks, appreciate it

marlon
 
  • #40
marlon said:
yeah, how could i forget? Do you know the name of the woman that sung at the opening ceremonies. She had a magical voice and i believe she is Norwegian. I also thought she once sang with Placido Domingo at one of the Christmass in Vienna-extravaganza's...I would like to know her name
It most probably was Sissel Kyrkjebø; I'm not totally sure, though..

EDIT:
Yep, it was her.
 
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  • #41
  • #42
arildno said:
Here's a link to Sissel's home page:
http://www.sissel.net/


thanks man...she is very nice

marlon
 
  • #43
marlon said:
You know, though i am currently doing a physics phd at IMEC (look at the website in my profile), i always enjoyed playing on stage when i was in high school. Since being in college at never performed anymore but my dream has always been to become a Hollywood actor. In order to achieve this, should i just move to LA and "make things happen" ? That is what i always had in mind...

marlon

When Brad Pitt was a struggling actor he moved to California in his beat-up Nissan called Runaround Sue. To pay for his acting classes, he worked as a limo driver for strippers, a mascot for pollo locco chicken and delivering appliances.

One of the wonderful things about this country, is with hard work, persistence, drive and luck you will achieve your dreams...

But your first sentence says a lot. You chose Physics, you're working on your Phd in Physics. That's your first love. You'll have more luck in that. Being an actor is just wishful thinking, it'll pass.
 
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  • #44
"One of the wonderful things about this country, is with hard work, persistence, drive and luck you will achieve your dreams..."

This has been true of every society.
Work like a slave, intrigue against your peers, suck up to your superiors, then you might become a superior yourself.
 
  • #45
arildno said:
This has been true of every society.
Work like a slave, intrigue against your peers, suck up to your superiors, then you might become a superior yourself.

Someone has a huge chip on their shoulders :rolleyes: But hey, you earned that advisor title so I'm not holding that against you :biggrin:
 
  • #46
arildno said:
Here's a link to Sissel's home page:
Holy cats! Thanks, man. I haven't heard her music yet, but that site is worth it for the visuals. :-p
 
  • #47
Danger said:
Holy cats! Thanks, man. I haven't heard her music yet, but that site is worth it for the visuals. :-p
There are no sheep there, though..
 
  • #48
The_Professional said:
Someone has a huge chip on their shoulders :rolleyes: But hey, you earned that advisor title so I'm not holding that against you :biggrin:
Uhm..no. Just stating some historical facts for you, that's all.
 
  • #49
arildno said:
Uhm..no. Just stating some historical facts for you, that's all.

I didn't ask for it. Shut the hell up.
 
  • #50
Yes, being brainwashed is a cozy state of mind, isn't it?
 
  • #51
arildno said:
Yes, being brainwashed is a cozy state of mind, isn't it?

If I wanted a history lesson I'll go pick up a history book. If YOU got a beef with society go start a thread in the politics forum.
 
  • #52
The_Professional said:
If I wanted a history lesson I'll go pick up a history book.
I suggest you do.
 
  • #53
arildno said:
I suggest you do.

I suggest you kiss my ass.
 
  • #54
No, thank you.
Your list is simply the set of survival rules under a dictatorship.
They have nothing to do with the great Western&American ideals of individual freedom.
 
  • #55
arildno said:
No, thank you.
Your list is simply the set of survival rules under a dictatorship.
They have nothing to do with the great Western&American ideals of individual freedom.

Blah blah blah. I've lived in a country under dictatorship for years. You don't know a thing about living and breathing under a dictatorial regime. You can parrot me ideas about that, but they're just ideas/facts you read in a book.
 
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  • #56
arildno said:
There are no sheep there, though..
I am willing to overlook that fact given the nature of what is there. :-p
 
  • #57
marlon said:
ok, but how do i get in ? I mean, i don't really feel like restarting my phd you see ? Besides, i doubt if going back to college is a usefull thing in my case

regards
marlon

I'd say finish up that PhD quick, and come to LA for a postdoc.
 
  • #58
The_Professional said:
Blah blah blah. I've lived in a country under dictatorship for years. You don't know a thing about living and breathing under a dictatorial regime. You can parrot me ideas about that, but they're just ideas/facts you read in a book.

I think the idea still works in any society but its in a different manner. Here you can work from the gorund up and work 9-9 and bring in success for your company and that is what we would call "working hard to become successful". In a dictatorship though, as I am sure you could agree with, the same rules apply except that 9-9, success, investment, etc is replaced with activities we might call criminal. I'm sure there's a way to become "successful" in any country, but the methods to be successful are probably radically different in a dictatorship vs. free society.
 
  • #59
marlon said:
yeah, probably...however i am planning to incorporate the physics in my acting-style...I am going to be a real rational actor...i really hate the exagurated way of acting that is common amoung most semi-talented actors

No, that doesn't sell, it won't work. People like huge explosions coming otu of a tv or computer or a bullet hitting a tank will blow up a building or a big piece of metal flying through a building sending an explosion 300 feet high lol. Also, be prepared to throw your own morals and standards out the window. You don't hire producers to make movies, they hire you.

I wouldn't doubt that in the US, you'd probably have to throw away any idea of moral and ethics. With the # of actors and actresses from huge hollywood films going into drug rehab programs, at least i feel its obvious that there's a lot of drug activity going on. a lot of actors/actresses however, u can just see it on them immediately. I honestly hate hollwood... and unfortunately it lives 300 miles south of me... pff.
 
  • #60
marlon said:
You know, though i am currently doing a physics phd at IMEC (look at the website in my profile), i always enjoyed playing on stage when i was in high school. Since being in college at never performed anymore but my dream has always been to become a Hollywood actor. In order to achieve this, should i just move to LA and "make things happen" ? That is what i always had in mind...

marlon

I'd say the first step is to act in "some" sort of film. Just someone's amateur film. Something that shows your skills. I'm sure there are tons of independent filmmakers that are looking for free actors for their films.

If you have the patience you can do what Shane Carruth did. Have you heard of "Primer" ? It was written, directed, scored, acted by a former engineer called Shane Carruth. I happen to know one of the other actors. Shane decided he wanted to make a film and did it. It took him two years.

He knew nothing about filmmaking, and with $7000 he made a Sundance Festival winning film. I thought he did a great acting job. He's never acted before and has no ambition to act. But he had to to get the film done.

Maybe you can make your own film. Maybe just a short film. I think it's a better use of your time than going the homeless hollywood route. Nothing showcases your talent like a finished product. It's a tough route. But it'll distinguish you from the rest of the crowd.
 

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