How Can I Solve for Coefficients in Cylindrical Acoustic Modeling?

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The discussion revolves around solving for coefficients in a cylindrical acoustic modeling problem, specifically involving the relationship between radial velocity and the radial derivative of the velocity potential in cylindrical coordinates.

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  • Participants explore the possibility of using a Fourier-type approach to isolate coefficients by multiplying both sides of the equation by cos(mθ) and integrating over θ. There are questions about the effectiveness of this method and its implications for determining the coefficients An.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing ideas and questioning the validity of proposed methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of orthogonality in trigonometric functions, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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Participants express uncertainty about the orthogonality of the functions involved, particularly if the indices n are not integers or have a complex relationship, as well as concerns regarding the behavior of Hankel functions at the boundary.

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Hey guys and gals,

While this technically isn't homework, I figured this is the place to post.

I am working over a problem and I am at a point in the solution that has me a bit stumped. Perhaps someone may provide some guidance.

In acoustics, we run into the problem of a radiating body in cylindrical coordinates. Essentially, after a bit of work, I have come to the point where I am stuck in equating a body's radial velocity and the radial derivative of the velocity potential. What I have is:

[tex]C cos(\theta) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty A_n \left(\frac{\omega}{a_o} \right) H_{n+1}^{(1)} \left(\frac{\omega}{a_o} R\right) cos(n \theta)[/tex]

Where C is a constant, An is what I am trying to solve for, and H is the Hankel function of the first kind.

Now, normally I don't have both sides as a function of theta and the solving for An is pretty straight forward. However, this time it is not the case. Is there a way to somehow come up with a general solution to An that does not include the summation? I'm thinking no, but I figured I'd ask.

Thanks!
 
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could you do the Fourier type approach & mutiply both side by [itex]cos(m\theta)[/itex] then integrate over theta?
 
I am not seeing what that will do if I multiply by [tex]cos (m \theta)[/tex]. Can you elaborate a bit more on that? Thanks!
 
could be missing something/oversimplifying, but here's what i was thinking... directly along the lines of how you determine the Fourier co-efficients

so if I'm getting it correctly, for the purpose of evaluating the An constants, the hankel functions are effectively just a constant evaluated at the boundary r = R, so write the total coefficient as Bn for now:
[tex]C cos(\theta) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty B_n cos(n \theta)[/tex]

now, if the terms of the sum were something more like [itex]cos(n\pi \theta)[/itex], then multiplying by [itex]cos(m\pi \theta)[/itex], and integrating you get:
[tex]C \int cos(m\pi \theta) cos(\pi \theta) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty B_n \int cos(\pi n \theta)cos(m\pi \theta)[/tex]

which will cancel out pretty simply due to the orthogonal nature of the cos functions...

so maybe you can find a similar approach...

though its been a while since i done any of these, & that was only really in SL type problems & so some issues i could see:
- if the n aren't nice integers or have a clear integer difference type relationship (no longer othogonal..? is there another orthogonal set?)
- and if any of the hankel functions had zeroes at the boundary
 
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