How Can I Tackle Infinite Sums of Cosines in My Homework?

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The discussion revolves around tackling infinite sums of cosines, specifically focusing on the application of Riemann sums and Taylor series to evaluate limits. Participants are exploring mathematical reasoning within the context of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss writing the sum as a Riemann sum and finding a suitable function for this purpose. There are attempts to use Taylor series for approximating the cosine function, with questions about the remainder term and its implications for the limit.

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Some participants have shared their attempts and results, while others are still exploring different methods. There is a mix of insights regarding the Taylor series and its application, with no explicit consensus reached on the best approach yet.

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There is mention of the problem being suitable for college-level mathematics, indicating a potential gap in knowledge for some participants who are preparing for college admission.

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I have no idea how to start. Any hints?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Hi flyerpower! :smile:

The trick is to write this sum in a Riemann sum. So, write the sum as something of the form

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^n{f(x_k)\Delta x}[/tex]

The limit of such a sum is an integral. So if you can write your sum as a Riemann sum, then you can find integrals to calculate the limit.
 
Hmm, nice problem! :smile:

@MM: I tried it your way, but couldn't find such a function. Do you have a suggestion how to get there?

What I did, was to write the cosine function as a Taylor expansion with only 1 term and an upper estimate for the remainder term. From there I could find the limit...
 
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I've already tried finding a function suitable for Riemann but, unfortunately, i couldn't come up with a result. I'll keep trying if you say it can be solved using riemann sums:).

@serena what value did you come up with by using taylor series?
 
flyerpower said:
I've already tried finding a function suitable for Riemann but, unfortunately, i couldn't come up with a result. I'll keep trying if you say it can be solved using riemann sums:).

@serena what value did you come up with by using taylor series?

I'd try ILSerena's method, it is much easier. :smile:
It should work with riemann sums, but I think it will get a bit complicated...
 
flyerpower said:
@serena what value did you come up with by using taylor series?

1/3.

(You're not doing some online homework test for extra credit, for which you only need the answer I hope?)
 
(You're not doing some online homework test for extra credit, for which you only need the answer I hope?)


No :), actually I'm preparing for an important math exam and I'm just practicing. I wanted to know your result and try with taylor series.
 
So, i kinda guessed it using my intuition.

So that sum expands like this : cos PI/(2n+1) + cos PI/(2n+2) + ... cos PI/(2n+n)

then if we apply the limit n -> infinity :

PI/(2n+1) -> 0, so does PI/(2n+2) ... PI/(2n+n), so every term converges to cos(0) = 1

We will have 1+1+1+1+1...+1 = n

And then if we plug it into the initial limit we have n/(3n+1) which converges to 1/3.
Is my intuition correct ?:)Also if you may write here the Taylor series method i would really appreciate. I don't know how to write that cosine function with only one term if Taylor series are infinite polynomial series :).
 
Yes, your intuition is correct! :smile:

The main thing the Taylor series remainder term provides, is to show that the remainder vanishes.

For reference, the Taylor series is explained on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series

In particular on this page you can find that the expansion for the cosine is:
[tex]\cos x = 1 - \frac {x^2} {2!} + \frac {x^4} {4!} - ...[/tex]

Sadly the wiki article does not explain about the remainder term, but it is explained in this wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor's_theorem

Long story short, we have:
[tex]1 - \frac {x^2} {2!} \le \cos x \le 1[/tex]

If you fill that in, you should find your limit (although it's still not trivial :wink:).
 
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Thank you for the explanation, i got it.
Taylor series seem to be very useful in many situations, i'll take a deeper look on them even though i didn't study that at school.
 
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Well, you wouldn't.
That is, not in high school (assuming that is what you mean).
It's college/university material, which is not taught in high school (afaik).
This problem has university in mathematics or physics written over it.
How did you get by it?
 
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I just finished high school and now I'm preparing for college admission.
As for this problem, i found it in the math book that i use for practice.
 

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