How Can Integration by Parts Help with Explaining Theoretical Integration?

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The discussion revolves around the application of integration by parts in deriving a reduction formula for the integral of cosine raised to the power of n. Participants are exploring the steps involved in using integration by parts to manipulate the integral and clarify the theoretical aspects of the integration process.

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  • Participants discuss the choice of functions for integration by parts, with suggestions to reconsider the selections of u and dv/dx. There are attempts to apply the chain rule for differentiation and questions about the implications of multiplying by n in the context of the integral.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on differentiation techniques and questioning the correctness of expressions. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the manipulation of the integral and the use of trigonometric identities.

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I'm stuck on explaining this. Does anybody know how to help?

(a) By writing [tex]\cos^nx = cos^{n-1}xcosx[/tex] use integration by parts to show that

[tex]\int \cos^nxdx = \cos^{n-1}xsinx + (n-1) \int \sin^2xcos^{n-2}xdx.[/tex]

(b) Using the result of part (a) derive the reduction formula

[tex]n\int \cos^nxdx = \cos^{n-1}x\sinx + (n-1) \int \cos^{n-2}xdx.[/tex]​
My Working:

(a) All i got so far is

u = cosx dv/dx =cos^{n-1}x

du/dx = -\sinx v = \int \cos^{n-1}x
 
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You usually don't want to pick a function you can't immediately integrate as dv/dx, because then you have a nested integral, which is no fun. Try switching your choices of u and dv/dx.
 
StatusX said:
You usually don't want to pick a function you can't immediately integrate as dv/dx, because then you have a nested integral, which is no fun. Try switching your choices of u and dv/dx.

ok i swithced u and v and got:

[tex]u = \cos^{n-1} \mbox{ and so } \frac{du}{dx} = \frac{-sin(n-1)x}{(n-1)^2}[/tex]

is this right so far?
 
I don't think so, although I don't really understand what you've written for du/dx. Just use the chain rule to differentiate (cos(x))^(n-1).
 
ok i got the first bit. using the chain rule works, thanks. but how do you do (b)? how can multiplying by n cancel out the sin^2x in the integration?
 
Use sin2(x)=1-cos2(x). Also, I think there's a mistake in the formula you posted. There should be a sin(x) in the first term on the right side.
 
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hmm, i can't see why using sin^2x = cos^2x - 1 helps, sorry. Could you explain it further please?
 

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