How Can the Area Under a Velocity-Time Graph Determine Displacement?

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The discussion revolves around understanding how to determine displacement from a velocity-time graph, specifically through calculating the area under the curve. Participants are exploring different methods and interpretations of this concept.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to validate their method of calculating displacement by separating the graph into segments and questioning the accuracy of traditional methods. Some participants discuss the relationship between the method taught by the teacher and the concept of integrals. Others raise concerns about the effectiveness of approximating areas under irregular shapes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different perspectives on the methods for calculating displacement. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance regarding the use of graph paper and the concept of approximating areas through smaller segments has been provided.

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Participants are working with a specific velocity-time graph and are constrained by the lack of a graphing calculator. There is also mention of homework rules that may limit the methods they can use.

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OK I have a v-t graph and I wish to find the change in displacement/distance/position w/e.

REFER TO THE PICTURE FOR THE ACTUAL QUESTION THANKS! (see the pic attached)

My teacher taught me a method of seperating the LINE (ref.picture) into segments then calculating the area of each one then adding then up to get the final displacement but I am wondering if my method will work. (not that I don't like her method but i don't find it to be of a sufficient accuracy due to human error.)

Def of ellipse: An ellipse is a set of points in the plane, whose sum of distances from two fixed points is constant. I cannot draw a perfect ellipse i don't have graphing calculator so i can't derive the question of my answer from trying to get the sum of two points over and over again.

Anybody?
 

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I don't get this...

What is it you want to do ?

marlon

PS : the system your teachet taught you is just the discrete version of what we call an integral. This is the approach to construct the integral formalism using the concepts of the Darboux Sums.
 
lol the longer this question remains here the longer i begin to suspect its retardness. Anyway,

On this site if you scroll to the bottom and read the last paragraph, more specifically the information regarding "(d)"

QUOTE""
Even though wehave no formula for the area of a funny shape like (d), we can approximateits area by dividing it up into smaller areas like rectangles, whose area iseasier to calculate. If someone hands you a graph like (d) and asks you tofind the area under it, the simplest approach is just to count up the littlerectangles on the underlying graph paper, making rough estimates offractional rectangles as you go along.
/QUOTE""

Here it says there is no formula but I just made one in the first post and am wondering if it is correct.

Also to re-iterate my first post for clarity: If the Line on a V-T graph is one continuous line across the whole graph.(as i have drawn in the picture in post 1)
Then, can I not take that line and create 4 identical ones to create an Ellipse?
And from there on use basic calculations to subtract a portion (1/4) of it from a invented square resulting in the area being that of whatever is below the curve?

err.. thanks.
 
Your ellipse approach only helps to calculate the total distance covered. To draw a position time graph you have to evaluate the area under the curve at several time intervals, so I am afraid you will have to draw the graph on graph paper and count squares or stick a photocopy of such over the original graph.
 

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