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The discussion centers on the critical oil supply issues in the Gulf region and potential solutions to mitigate risks associated with conflicts and piracy. Participants highlight the importance of the Iraqi Tapline and the Saudi Tapline, which historically transported oil to the Mediterranean, suggesting that reactivating these lines could lower global oil prices and reduce dependency on Gulf shipping routes. Concerns about shipping costs to Europe and North America are raised, particularly regarding the added expenses of pirate protection when transporting oil from the Gulf. Some argue that registering ships under a U.S. flag could reduce insurance costs and enhance security against piracy. The conversation also touches on the geopolitical complexities of oil transport, including the role of Turkey and the challenges posed by reliance on Russian routes. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the need for strategic actions to ensure stable oil supplies and lower shipping costs in the face of regional instability.
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Now there is a big problem in the Gulf ...it is a major oil rout to the world not only us !

What we can do to prevent a full cut to this by war if its start?

and how we can cut the shipping costs to EU and US

How we can get ride of the pirates[Somali] problem and its effects

there is an old solution to this problem back from 1948

there is an oil line called the Iraqi Tap line and the Saudi Tap Line

it was the most important line in the ME
Iraqi Tapline from Iraq to Syria then to the Mediterranean Sea

KSA Tapline from KSA to Jordan then Syria and to the Mediterranean Sea

this two lines will change the price of oil in the world making it cheaper

and eliminate the possibility to cut oil from the world

but what kind of action needed to do to make it up and ruining
 
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if you're going to get off in Syria, then you've still got to ship it by boat to europe. i assume that is more expensive, and why Turkey is still the world's crossroads (at least as far as shipping petroleum to europe is concerned). some obviously goes thru russia, but I'm not sure anyone likes depending on them. they did cut off ukraine's gas in the middle of winter over a money dispute recently.

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/mapImages/44ee32e1c7619.pdf
 
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Proton Soup said:
if you're going to get off in Syria, then you've still got to ship it by boat to europe. i assume that is more expensive, and why Turkey is still the world's crossroads (at least as far as shipping petroleum to europe is concerned). some obviously goes thru russia, but I'm not sure anyone likes depending on them. they did cut off ukraine's gas in the middle of winter over a money dispute recently.

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/mapImages/44ee32e1c7619.pdf

it will cost less than shipping it from the gulf to eu

dont forget you have to pay for protection from pirates if you are shipping from gulf to eu and Namerica
 
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hagopbul said:
it will cost less than shipping it from the gulf to eu

dont forget you have to pay for protection from pirates if you are shipping from gulf to eu and Namerica

they can firebomb the pirates for all i care. in fact, look at what happens when they hijack ships flying under a US flag. it was nice to see Obama letting the military do what they do best with those guys. so, there's your protection right there. register your ship under a US flag. think of how much you'll save in insurance and "protection".

that said, we here in Namerica don't import a huge amount of middle-east petroleum. most of ours comes from our hemisphere.
 
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they can firebomb the pirates for all i care. in fact, look at what happens when they hijack ships flying under a US flag. it was nice to see Obama letting the military do what they do best with those guys. so, there's your protection right there. register your ship under a US flag. think of how much you'll save in insurance and "protection".

that said, we here in Namerica don't import a huge amount of middle-east petroleum. most of ours comes from our hemisphere.

no they can't

you are paying now for them but under the table :)

WHY?

because you are dealing with people that don't care much for life and death and fire bombing every one that hijack ... it will cost a lot of money they are in thousands

and for KSA there is other way from the field to the red sea to eu.

but for IRAQ and Kuwait the Tapline is the best
 

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