How can you prove that a nonconstant function has a countable number of zeros?

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The discussion revolves around proving that a nonconstant function has at most countably many zeros, particularly in the context of analytic functions and their properties regarding zeros and accumulation points.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the implications of having an uncountable set of zeros, questioning the existence of accumulation points and the isolation of zeros in analytic functions. There are attempts to establish a contradiction based on these properties.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the nature of zeros in analytic functions and the conditions under which they can be considered isolated. Some guidance is provided on partitioning the complex plane to analyze the distribution of zeros.

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There are references to specific assumptions about the nature of zeros in analytic functions and the implications of having infinitely many zeros within bounded regions. The discussion also touches on the need for clarity regarding the partitioning argument and the relationship between zeros and accumulation points.

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Let f be a nonconstant function. Prove that f has at most countably many zeros

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What do you know about analytic functions where the zeros have a accumulation point? Can an uncountable set not have a accumulation point?
 
I don't know what you mean by that since zeros of ananlytic function are isolated points and non of them is a limit point.
 
That was exactly Dick's point! If there were an uncountable set of zeros, there would have to be an accumulation point, contradicting the fact that the zeros are isolated.
 
You mean that we can prove it by contradicion.

Let S be the set of zeros of f and suppose that it is uncountable.

then we can get a sequence of these zeros convergent to a point in z.

This gives that the zeros are not isolated.

but, if this is what you mean, how can we be sure that we have a convergent series in S.
 
sbashrawi said:
You mean that we can prove it by contradicion.

Let S be the set of zeros of f and suppose that it is uncountable.

then we can get a sequence of these zeros convergent to a point in z.

This gives that the zeros are not isolated.

but, if this is what you mean, how can we be sure that we have a convergent series in S.

Right. So the trick is to show there is a convergent sequence. Divide the plane up into regions of finite area that cover the whole plane. Like squares of edge size one centered on each point m+n*i, where m and n are integers. Can you show at least one of those squares contains an infinite number of zeros?
 
suppose that f doesn't have caountably many zeros.
then it has infinitely many zeros in one of this partition.
Infinitely many zeros in a bounded set implies an accumulation point of zeroes, and an accumulation point of zeros for an analytic function implies that that function is zero everywhere.
contradiction

So f has at most countably many zeros.
 
sbashrawi said:
suppose that f doesn't have caountably many zeros.
then it has infinitely many zeros in one of this partition.
Infinitely many zeros in a bounded set implies an accumulation point of zeroes, and an accumulation point of zeros for an analytic function implies that that function is zero everywhere.
contradiction

So f has at most countably many zeros.

Ok. You didn't make it terribly clear why one element of the partition contains infinitely many zeros. Do you know why?
 
I think this comes from the infinitely many zeros ( uncountable assumption)
 
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sbashrawi said:
I think this comes from the infinitely many zeros ( uncountable assumption)

Still unclear. You can have one zero in each square. That's an infinite number of zeros. Sure, it's the uncountable assumption but how does it work?
 
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http://math.nyu.edu/student_resources/wwiki/index.php/Complex_Variables:_2006_January:_Problem_5" using Taylor's theorem.
 
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