How Did Apes Across the Globe Develop Similar Beliefs in a Creator?

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The discussion explores the phenomenon of similar beliefs in a creator among various ape civilizations across the globe, examining the implications of these beliefs in relation to evolution and human cognition. It touches on themes of language development, cultural transmission, and the intersection of science and philosophy.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note the scientific curiosity regarding how different civilizations independently developed a belief in a creator, despite geographical and temporal separations.
  • One participant suggests that the human mind's capacity for storytelling and explanation of the unknown led to the creation of gods, positing that shared experiences among early humans contributed to similar beliefs.
  • Another participant emphasizes that science can explain "how" phenomena occur but not "why," suggesting that philosophical inquiry is necessary for understanding the motivations behind beliefs.
  • A participant recounts a personal anecdote about attributing significance to a silver quarter, illustrating how humans create connections and meanings that may not be objectively true.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the relevance of the discussion to scientific inquiry, suggesting it may be better suited for cultural studies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between science and philosophy, particularly regarding the ability of science to address "why" questions. There is no consensus on the implications of evolutionary theory for the development of religious beliefs, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about the nature of belief, the role of evolution in shaping human thought, and the distinction between scientific and philosophical questions. Some participants acknowledge the complexity of these topics without resolving the underlying uncertainties.

  • #31
What do you mean "changed"?

Like "since today pi is 7"?
 
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  • #32
Kglocc said:
I'm sorry, I've never heard of Goedel before, and I can't quite grasp what the wikipedia is trying to say about incompleteness theorem. But how does that, "not allow for infinity within the human mind"? Are you saying that Goedel somehow proved we cannot comprehend infinity with a proof? Even so, the concept of infinity may be impossible in the human mind, but actual infinity still exists (i.e. in math and physics) right?

Ah, no, I'm saying that the concept of "infinite imaginative" capacity is not what the theorem is about. That's a happy notion, but not one that's rooted in any science or math, so it just doesn't apply. In fact, there are other principles and theories which limit the capacity of the human mind, or the information content of any discrete entity.
 
  • #33
This thread has no relevance to to biology sub-forum.
 

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