How did Rutherford prepare the gold leaf for the gold leaf test?

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Rutherford prepared the gold leaf for his gold leaf test by utilizing a technique known as gold beating, which allowed for the creation of extremely thin gold foil, approximately 0.6 μm in thickness. The experiment involved shining a beam of accelerated alpha rays through this foil, which was conducted in an evacuated tube to prevent interference from air. Historical references indicate that Rutherford may have used commercially available foils, as noted in Geiger's original article, which discusses the availability of metals in various thicknesses.

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How did Rutherford prepare the gold leaf for the gold leaf test (at that time)
 
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Welcome to PF.

Hasal said:
How did Rutherford prepare the gold leaf for the gold leaf test (at that time)
What have you found in your reading and research so far? Please post links to your sources. Thank you.

Also, is this question for schoolwork?
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to PF.What have you found in your reading and research so far? Please post links to your sources. Thank you.

Also, is this question for schoolwork?
Dear sir, I am a high school student, so this is for schoolwork.
While learning about Rutherford's gold leaf test in the study of atomic structure, I was taught that it was done by shining a beam of accelerated alpha rays on a gold leaf. Alpha rays can be blocked by air or by paper. So how did he make the thickness of the gold so small?(thikness of gold foil- 0.6 μm)

Is it possible to believe that the technology called gold beating has been used for this?
Thank you.

Gold beating:- https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/BF03215119.pdf

The experiment:-
https://www.vrlabacademy.com/NewsDe...World--Rutherford-s-Gold-Foil-Experiment.html
 
Hasal said:
Dear sir, I am a high school student, so this is for schoolwork.
Thank you; I've moved your thread to the schoolwork forums now.

Hasal said:
While learning about Rutherford's gold leaf test in the study of atomic structure, I was taught that it was done by shining a beam of accelerated alpha rays on a gold leaf. Alpha rays can be blocked by air or by paper.
Yes, so they used an evacuated tube for the experiments, it appears:
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http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2017/ph241/sivulka2/

Hasal said:
So how did he make the thickness of the gold so small?(thikness of gold foil- 0.6 μm)

Is it possible to believe that the technology called gold beating has been used for this?
That's an interesting question. I'm still looking for that information for that time period... :smile:
 
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A book of Gold Leaf ("Dutch Metal") can be purchased from a lab equipment supplier for £17. I am not sure if Rutherford had to make it even thinner.
 
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The original Geiger article can actually be found:
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rspa.1910.0038
Geiger comments on metals being "available" in different thicknesses, except tin, which was "available" in only one thickness. Suggesting that Geiger used foils prepared by others for other purposes, and was restricted to thicknesses others had chosen.
 
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Hasal said:
Is it possible to believe that the technology called gold beating has been used for this?
Yes. This is very old tech.
 
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