How Do Conservation Laws Apply to a Collision and Subsequent Motion?

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The discussion revolves around the application of conservation laws in a collision scenario involving a block and a stone, followed by the compression of a spring. The problem includes specific masses, velocities, and a spring constant, focusing on the dynamics of the collision and subsequent motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy during the collision and the subsequent energy transfer to the spring. Questions arise about the conservation principles applicable in both phases of the problem.

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Participants are actively discussing the conservation laws relevant to the collision and the spring compression. Some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of the problem into two parts, focusing on the conservation of momentum and energy. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of these principles.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of conservation laws in collisions, with some expressing uncertainty about their setups and calculations. The discussion reflects a need for clarification on the assumptions made regarding energy conservation in the context of the problem.

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Having a difficult time determining which laws and equations to use?

A 15.0 kg block is attached to a very light horizontal spring of force constant 350 N/m and is resting on a smooth horizontal table. Suddenly it is struck by a 3.00 kg stone traveling horizontally at 8.00m/s to the right, whereupon the stone rebounds at 2.00 m/s horizontally to the left.

Find the maximum distance in meters that the block will compress the spring after the collision.
 
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Think of it as two problems. Take them one at a time:
(1) The collision of stone with block--what's conserved there?
(2) The compression of the spring--what's conserved here?
 
Combining Conservation Laws; where'd I go wrong?

A 15.0 kg block is attached to a very light horizontal spring of force constant 350 N/m and is resting on a smooth horizontal table. Suddenly it is struck by a 3.00 kg stone traveling horizontally at 8.00 m/s to the right, whereupon the stone rebounds at 2.00 m/s horizontally to the left.

Don't know where I went wrong?
Here's my setup:

Collision:

Change in KE(stone) = (1/2)(m)(vfsquared-visquared)
= (1/2)(3.00kg)(-2m/s squared - 8 m/s squared)
= -90

After the collision:

Change in KE(stone) = (1/2)(Force constant)xsquared
-90 = (1/2)(350N/m)xsquared
x = 0.72m
 
Please don't start a second thread on the same problem.

Start by answering the questions I posed in my earlier response.
 
1.) Kinetic energy
2.) Kinetic energy of block is transferred to the spring, where it's stored as potential energy
 
merlos said:
1.) Kinetic energy
In general, KE is not conserved in a collision. But what is conserved in every collision?

2.) Kinetic energy of block is transferred to the spring, where it's stored as potential energy
Right!
 
1.) Momentum
 
Right. Now use that to find the speed of the block just after the collision.
 

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