How Do Forces Affect the Center of Mass Displacement in a Two-Object System?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the displacement of the center of mass in a two-object system consisting of an olive (0.11 kg) at the origin and a Brazil nut (0.82 kg) at coordinates (0.99, 2.1) m. Two forces act on these objects: Fo = (4i + 4j) N on the olive and Fn = (-4i - 3j) N on the nut over a duration of 4.6 seconds. Participants suggest two methods for solving the problem: treating each object separately to find individual displacements or treating the system as a single entity to calculate the net force and resulting acceleration for the center of mass.

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A big olive (m = 0.11 kg) lies at the origin of an xy coordinate system, and a big Brazil nut (M = 0.82 kg) lies at the point (0.99, 2.1) m. At t = 0, a force Fo = (4i + 4j) N begins to act on the olive, and a force Fn = (-4i -3j) N begins to act on the nut. What is the (a)x and (b)y displacement of the center of mass of the olive-nut system at t = 4.6 s, with respect to its position at t = 0?

I first started approaching the problem by doing E(sigma)mixi/Emi, and the same for the y-direction. So, for x-direction, it would be:

(.99molive + 0mnut)/(.82kg + .11kg)

for the y-direction, it would be:

(2.1molive + 0mnut)/(.82kg + .11kg)

I don't even know if I did those correctly.

For the rest, they give you the force in both directions and the duration time (4.6 sec). I have to find the displaceent, which means I first have to find the center of mass for 0 seconds and then for 4.6 seconds.

Can someone help me with how to approach this problem, especially how I can use the vector forces? Thank you.
 
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sophzilla said:
So, for x-direction, it would be:

(.99molive + 0mnut)/(.82kg + .11kg)

for the y-direction, it would be:

(2.1molive + 0mnut)/(.82kg + .11kg)

I don't even know if I did those correctly.
Looks to me like you got the olive and nut mixed up; it's the olive that is at the origin.

For the rest, they give you the force in both directions and the duration time (4.6 sec). I have to find the displaceent, which means I first have to find the center of mass for 0 seconds and then for 4.6 seconds.

Can someone help me with how to approach this problem, especially how I can use the vector forces?
There are two ways to approach this. One way is to treat each "particle" separately: Given the force, find its acceleration, then it's displacement. (Treat each component independently.) Then find the new center of mass at t = 4.6 sec.

Another way, a bit easier, is to treat the nut and olive as a single system. Find the net force on the system (just add the forces). Then, treating the system as a single "particle" (with mass equal to the total mass of both), you can find the acceleration--and then the displacement--of the center of mass directly.
 

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