How Do I Calculate the Dynamical Matrix for a Crystal with a Pair Potential?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the dynamical matrix for a crystal using a pair potential. Participants explore both analytical and numerical methods for deriving the matrix, particularly addressing challenges that arise when considering interactions between identical atoms.

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  • Eric raises concerns about computing the dynamical matrix, particularly when atom i equals atom j, noting that the potential's second derivatives diverge at r=0.
  • Another participant suggests a specific form for the pair potential and explains the implications for the first and second derivatives, highlighting the exclusion of terms where i=j.
  • Eric acknowledges the clarification and considers summing over multiple cells to address the issue of excluding i=j terms.
  • Sundar requests assistance in deriving a general form of the dynamical matrix for lattices with more than one atom, indicating a broader inquiry into the topic.

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Participants express differing views on how to handle the divergence issue when i=j, and there is no consensus on a definitive approach to calculating the dynamical matrix, particularly for more complex lattices.

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The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the form of the pair potential and its derivatives. Specific conditions under which the divergence occurs are not fully explored.

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Researchers and students interested in solid-state physics, computational materials science, or those working on lattice dynamics and crystal structures may find this discussion relevant.

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Dear all,

I'm trying to compute the dynamical matrix of a crystal with a pair potential.
One way would be to use the second derivatives of the potential, and an other is to compute it numerically.
Well, in both cases, I get troubles where atom i equal atom j.
Is there something I haven't get yet?
I go through each atoms (i=1,N) and for each pairs I go through each coordinates (x,y,z). But in the analytical expressions of the derevatives there is always 1/r which diverge when r=0.
Numerically I face to the same problem ...
Any advices?
Thanks in advance,

Eric.
 
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I assume your pair potential has the form:

[tex]V(r_1,...,r_N) = \frac12 \sum_{i \neq j} \phi(|r_i - r_j|)[/tex]

That has N*(N-1) terms in it. When you take the first derivative wrt to a single coordinate, than you end up with N-1 terms. Then you have two different outcomes depending on whether your second derivative is taken with respect to the same coordinate as the first one or not. If it is, then you still have N-1 terms, like:

[tex]\frac{\partial^2 V}{\partial r_i^2} = \sum_{j} \left. \frac{\partial^2 \phi(r)}{\partial r^2} \right|_{|r_i-r_j|}[/tex]

where the sum over j excludes the j=i term.
 
Hi Kanato,

thanks it's clear.
I think I have to sum over 2 different cells to not exclude terms i=j.


Eric.
 
Dear All,
Can some one help me derive a general form of dynamical matrix for lattice more than one atom?
Many thanks in advance,
Sundar
 

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