How Do I Calculate the Electric Field of a Charged Copper Plate?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field of a charged copper plate, specifically focusing on a thin, horizontal plate charged with a significant number of electrons. Participants are exploring the implications of the plate's geometry and charge distribution on the electric field calculation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning which formula to use for calculating the electric field, considering both E=(eta)/(epsilon_o) and E=(eta)/(2*epsilon_o). There is also discussion about how to determine the surface charge density, with some uncertainty about whether to use the total number of electrons or half of that value.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various perspectives on the problem. Some suggest treating the plate as a conductor and considering the distribution of charge across its surfaces, while others are exploring the implications of the plate's dimensions on the electric field calculation.

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There is a mention of the plate's thickness and its classification as a three-dimensional object, which raises questions about the assumptions made in applying formulas typically used for infinite planes of charge. Participants are also considering the effects of charge distribution on both the top and bottom surfaces of the plate.

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1) A thin, horizontal 0.10m x 0.10m copper plate is charged with 1.0x10^10 electrons. If the electrons are uniformly distributed on the surface, what are the strength and direction of the electric field 0.1mm below the centre of the bottom surface of the plate? (Note: copper is a conductor, so all excess charges will be on the surface)

Should I use the formula E=(eta)/(epsilon_o), or should I use E=(eta)/(2*epsilon_o) ? Why?
[E=electric field, eta=surface charge density]

Second question: to find the surface charge density
eta=Q/Area
Should I substitute 1.0x10^10 for the charge Q or should I substitute 5.0x10^9 (half of the electrons) as the charge Q?

I am really having some problem understanding how to calculate this...can someone help me? Thank you!
 
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well even if it's thin, it still has some thickness. I would consider it to be three dimensional. Does that help?
 
So should I use the formula for the electric field of a plane of charge: E=eta/(2*epsilon_o) ??

Would there be half (1.0x10^10 / 2) of the electrons on the top surface and half electrons on the bottom surface? How about the sides??
 
Can someone help me please?
 
1) is it a plane?
- plane is supposed to be infinite, right?
try to find expression for electric field on the surface of conductor using Gauss's law
 
kingwinner said:
Should I use the formula E=(eta)/(epsilon_o), or should I use E=(eta)/(2*epsilon_o) ? Why?
[E=electric field, eta=surface charge density]
Your choice. Either approach will work if done correctly.

Since it's a conductor, the charge will distribute itself across all surfaces. So half the charge is on the top surface; half is on the bottom. (Ignore the thin sides!)

You can treat it as a conductor, using the appropriate formula for the field at the surface of a conductor, but be sure to use just the surface charge, which is only half the total charge.

Or you can just treat it as a plane of charge by lumping both surfaces together to get the total charge. (Or you can treat it as two planes of charge and add them up.)
 

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