How do I calculate the height of a tower using motion in one dimension?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the height of a tower using kinematic equations in one-dimensional motion. The original poster presents a problem involving a rock thrown downward with an initial speed and seeks assistance in determining the height based on the time it takes to hit the ground.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply kinematic equations but expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the rearrangement of formulas. Some participants question the correctness of the original formula used for height calculation. Others suggest alternative methods for deriving the necessary equations and highlight the importance of understanding the underlying principles.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing corrections and alternative approaches. There is a recognition of mistakes in the original calculations, and some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of kinematic equations. Multiple interpretations of the problem-solving process are being explored without reaching a consensus.

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The original poster mentions a multiple-choice answer that differs from their calculated height, indicating potential confusion or misinterpretation of the problem setup. The discussion includes various assumptions about the motion and the effects of gravity, as well as the neglect of air resistance.

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I have a few problems I'm having trouble with. If I can get some help with this one I should be able to figure out the rest I have.

1. A rock is thrown downward from the top of a tower with an initial speed of 12 m/s. If the rock hits the ground after 2.0 s, what is the height of the tower? (neglect air resistance).

Known:
[tex]Vi=12m/s[/tex]
[tex]\Delta t=2 s[/tex]
[tex]a=9.8 m/s[/tex]

Relevant equations:
[tex]Vf^2=Vi^2+2a(\Delta y)[/tex]
My attempt:
[tex]\Delta y=Vf^2-Vi^2-(2a)[/tex]
[tex]\Delta y=0-144-(2*9.8 m/s^2)[/tex]
[tex]\Delta y=-163.6[/tex]
[tex]Height=163.6 m[/tex]

I'm not sure if this is right. I think I run into trouble when I rearrange the formula. Multiple choice answer D is 63 m, so it's either a typo or I'm doing something wrong. A little guidance please? Thank you!
 
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If a = b + gc, then
c = (a - b)/g
So your Δy formula is wrong.
 
Ah, ok. I see what I did.

Corrected formula:
[tex]\Delta y=Vf^2-Vi^2/2a[/tex]I also need to first find the final velocity:

[tex]Vf=Vi+a(\Delta t)[/tex]
[tex]Vf=12 m/s + 9.8 m/s^2 (2 s)[/tex]
[tex]Vf=31.6 m/s[/tex]

Now for [tex]\Delta y[/tex]:

[tex]\Delta y = (31.6m/s^2) - (12 m/s^2) / 2(9.8m/s^2)[/tex]:
[tex]\Delta y = 43.6 m[/tex]
Height: 44 m

So it turned out to be a silly mistake. At least I learned from it. Thanks rl.bhat!
 
You can also derive the formula that you need.

Here is an alternative way to solve this problem. This will help.

Given that the acceleration is 9.8 m/s^2 we know that

[tex]\ddot{x}=9.8 m/s^2[/tex]

and given that the initial velocity is 12 m/s, we can get

[tex]\dot{x}=9.8t + 12[/tex]

and finally, setting the initial point as 0 m

[tex]x=\frac{9.8}{2}t^2+12t[/tex]

Now you can plug in t=2 sec, and you get

[tex]x=43.6 m[/tex]

A simple calculus trick. This will help you solving more complicated problems later, without any formulae memorized. =)
 

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