How do I compute the commutator [L,p]?

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The discussion revolves around computing the commutator [L, p], where L represents the angular momentum operator and p represents the momentum operator in quantum mechanics. The context involves understanding the properties and definitions of these operators, particularly in relation to their vector nature and the application of commutation relations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the commutator and suggest expressing the L operator in terms of coordinates and momentum. There are mentions of applying the commutator to a wavefunction and simplifying the expression. Some participants question the complexity of the result and the need for componentwise computation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants offering insights and suggestions on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of Cartesian coordinates and the properties of the operators involved. Multiple interpretations and methods are being explored without a clear consensus on the final result.

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There are references to the need for a common dense domain for the commutator and the validity of fundamental commutation relations in the context of the Schwartz space. Participants also note the importance of understanding the non-commutativity of the position and momentum operators.

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How do i compute the commutator [L,p]?
 
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You should know from your class that the commutator [x, y] = xy - yx

you can express the L operator in terms of the coordinates x,y,z and the momentum operator p. Apply the commutator to a wavefunction psi and simplify!

Hope that gave you a clue.
 
use L=rXp in the commkuator.
 
I find 2ihp, is that correct? do you know the correct answer?
 
sapplesapple said:
How do i compute the commutator [L,p]?

First of all, both L and p are vectors, so the commutator should be computed componentwise. Next, you need to find a common dense everywhere domain for the commutator, it's not difficult to see that on the Schwartz space over R^3 both the momentum and the angular momentum operators are essentially self-adjoint and the invariance conditions are met. Therefore,

[L_{i},p_{j}]_{-}\psi (\vec{r})=...

and , without doing any specific calculations (derivatives i mean), using the fundamental comm. relations (also valid on the Schwartz space) and some simple Levi-Civita pseudotensor manipulations, you can find the answer.
 
sapplesapple said:
I find 2ihp, is that correct? do you know the correct answer?
No its more complicated than that. Use Cartesian coordinates with
[x,px]=i and (rXp)_i=epsilon_ijk x_ip_j.
 
r = (x, y, z) and p = (px, py, pz).

I assume you know how to take a cross product. The only other thing is that p = -i\hbarh\del which acts on the wavefunction \Psi, and you can't exchange r and p (ie. rxp is not the same as pxr)

I hope that helps
 

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