How do i find the equivalent voltage source?

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The discussion centers around finding the equivalent voltage source in two scenarios: combining two AC voltage sources in series with the same frequency and phase, and combining an AC voltage source with a DC voltage source. The context is primarily homework-related, focusing on the mathematical representation of these combinations.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Participants discuss the equivalent voltage source for two AC voltage sources in series, proposing that the total voltage can be expressed as the sum of the individual amplitudes multiplied by the sinusoidal function.
  • There is a challenge regarding the combination of an AC voltage source with a DC voltage source, with one participant initially suggesting an incorrect formulation that treats the DC source as sinusoidal.
  • A later reply clarifies that adding a constant DC value to a sinusoidal function results in a new function that is the sum of the DC value and the sinusoidal component, leading to a revised expression for the equivalent voltage source.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach for combining two AC sources, but there is disagreement on how to correctly represent the combination of AC and DC sources, with one participant initially misunderstanding the nature of the DC source.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the need for clarity in distinguishing between constant and varying functions, particularly in the context of voltage sources. The mathematical steps involved in combining these functions remain somewhat unresolved, particularly in the initial misunderstanding of the DC source's behavior.

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Homework Statement



How do i find the equivalent voltage source of...

1) Two AC voltage sources in series with same frequency and phase = ?
2) One AC voltage source in series with a DC voltage source = ?

Homework Equations



Equation of a AC voltage source as a function of time V(t)=V_m * sin( \omega *t + \theta )

The Attempt at a Solution


1) V(t)=(V_{m_1}+V_{m_2}) * sin( \omega *t + \theta )
2) V(t)=(V_{DC}+V_m) * sin( \omega *t + \theta )
 
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An1MuS said:

Homework Statement



How do i find the equivalent voltage source of...

1) Two AC voltage sources in series with same frequency and phase = ?
2) One AC voltage source in series with a DC voltage source = ?

Homework Equations



Equation of a AC voltage source as a function of time V(t)=V_m * sin( \omega *t + \theta )


The Attempt at a Solution


1) V(t)=(V_{m_1}+V_{m_2}) * sin( \omega *t + \theta )
2) V(t)=(V_{DC}+V_m) * sin( \omega *t + \theta )

Your first answer is correct. The second is not; a DC source is a constant value that does not vary sinusoidally. Suppose you had the two functions f(t) = 4 and g(t) = sin(ωt). What would be the result of adding them: f(t) + g(t) = ?
 
since f(t) = 4, then adding g(t) + f(t) would be the same as g(t) + 4...

Ah that makes sense, if i add a constant function such as DC current to some other non-constant like the sinusoidal function of AC current, it's like adding it's value, so the answer to b) is

V(t)=V_{DC}+V_m*sin(\omega *t + \theta)
 
An1MuS said:
since f(t) = 4, then adding g(t) + f(t) would be the same as g(t) + 4...

Ah that makes sense, if i add a constant function such as DC current to some other non-constant like the sinusoidal function of AC current, it's like adding it's value, so the answer to b) is

V(t)=V_{DC}+V_m*sin(\omega *t + \theta)

Much better! :approve:
 

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