How do i find the roots of this?

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The original poster presents a cubic polynomial equation, y = x^3 - 4x^2 - 7x + 10, and expresses a need to find its roots for graphing purposes, indicating that they are aware of the general behavior of cubic functions but have forgotten the methods to determine the roots.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for finding roots, including factoring, synthetic division, and trial and error with integer values. Some suggest looking for simple zeros and using polynomial division, while others mention the existence of formulas for cubic equations.

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The discussion includes multiple approaches to finding the roots, with some participants offering hints and methods without reaching a consensus on a single method. The original poster has attempted trial and error and reported some found roots, while others provide additional insights into potential strategies.

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There is mention of the difficulty of factoring cubic polynomials compared to quadratics, and the discussion reflects a range of familiarity with polynomial division techniques and the context of learning about such equations in algebra courses.

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y = X^3 - 4x^2 -7x + 10

i have to draw a graph of this, stationary points don't matter but all else does.

i know what it would look like because it is a cubic it will have 3 roots.

but i don't know how to find them, i forgot :P

can someone help please :)
 
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You need to factor the expression into linear binomials or a quadratic and a linear binomial. Study synthetic division and rational roots theorem.
 
For this equation it's not that hard.The first thing I usually do is try to find roots manually. To find roots you need to solve y = 0.
[tex]x^3-4x^2-7x+10=0[/tex]

Just try a few integers ranging from -3 to 3 or something and you will probably find one or two values for x that yield 0.

Let's say you found 1 of these values, x = a.
You now know that (x - a) is a factor in the factorized form of the equation:
[tex](x-a)(...) = x^3-4x^2-7x+10[/tex]

To find the remaining (...) you can use Long Division:
[tex](...) = \frac{x^3-4x^2-7x+10}{x-a}[/tex]An easier way, which afaik only works if you found two roots manually, let's say x = b and x = c, you can do this:
[tex](x-b)(x-c)(x-y) = x^3-4x^2-7x+10[/tex] for some unknown y.

Factor out the brackets and you can find the value of y easily.
 
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There is no easy way to factor any polynomial- just look at the factors of constant term and then "trial and error". And cubics are much harder than quadratics.

That's why the first thing I would try is to "look for" simple zeros.

Very, very large hint: what is y(1)?
 
I ended up trial and erroring it to find that its -2 1 and 5, but yeh..

i thought there might have been a method. thx
 
Another hint, this equation allows you to find two roots easily so you don't need to use Long Division if you don't know how that works with polynomials.

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Too late...

What do you mean by a method?
Perhaps you mean some formula like the quadratic formula [tex]x = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/tex]?
If so, these formulas do exist for third (cubic) and fourth (quartic) degree polynomials, but they are really hard and you won't even try to remember them.
Check out Wikipedia for derivations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_function

If you encounter the need to find the roots of a cubic in school or on an exam, the roots are usually integers or very easy numbers.

In real world problems however this is usually not the case and the method I described above does not work. Instead you would probably use a computer who does it in seconds...
 
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Some students begin learning about such polynomials and their zeros in Intermediate Algebra; most learn about this in PreCalculus/College Algebra.

Try division using binomials of (x-1), (x-2), (x-5), (x+1), (x+2), (x+5), (x-10), (x+10). Use synthetic division if you know it because it is faster. When you divide and obtain a remainder of zero, you have found a linear binomial factor.
 

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