How do I find the volume of gas using the given mass of oxygen?

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of gas using the given mass of oxygen, specifically focusing on the relationship between mass, moles, and volume in a gas mixture involving oxygen and nitrogen.

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  • Participants discuss converting mass of oxygen to moles and explore the mole ratio of oxygen to nitrogen. There are attempts to relate mole fractions to volume fractions, and questions arise regarding the application of the Ideal Gas Law.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing calculations and others questioning the correctness of the approaches taken. There is a focus on clarifying the relationships between mass, moles, and volume, though no consensus has been reached.

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Some participants mention specific masses and moles for oxygen and nitrogen, indicating a basis for their calculations, while others express uncertainty about the steps needed to arrive at a solution.

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I have tried to change mass of oxygen into mol and I got ratio of oxygen and nitrogen. And I don't really know what to do.
 

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thevinciz said:

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I have tried to change mass of oxygen into mol and I got ratio of oxygen and nitrogen. And I don't really know what to do.
In common terminology, the term volume fraction is used synonymously with mole fraction.
 
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phoenix95 said:
Well done.

Now try using Ideal gas law. Use the mole ratio you obtained.

Could you explain more?
 
Chestermiller said:
In common terminology, the term volume fraction is used synonymously with mole fraction.

Do you mean mol of oxygen / mol of nitrogen is equal to volume of oxygen / volume of nitrogen? But I still don't know how to solve.
 
thevinciz said:
Do you mean mol of oxygen / mol of nitrogen is equal to volume of oxygen / volume of nitrogen? But I still don't know how to solve.
Let's see the details of what you did.
 
Chestermiller said:
Let's see the details of what you did.

I got molO2/molN2 = 2.8/12.8 and from your comment I understand that volumeO2/volumeN2 = 2.8/12.8
 
thevinciz said:
I got molO2/molN2 = 2.8/12.8 and from your comment I understand that volumeO2/volumeN2 = 2.8/12.8
This is incorrect. If you take as a basis 1 kg of gas mixture, what is the mass of oxygen in the mixture? What is the mass of nitrogen in the mixture? What are the number of moles of oxygen in the mixture? What are the number of moles of nitrogen in the mixture? What is the mole fraction oxygen? What is the mole fraction nitrogen?
 
Chestermiller said:
This is incorrect. If you take as a basis 1 kg of gas mixture, what is the mass of oxygen in the mixture? What is the mass of nitrogen in the mixture? What are the number of moles of oxygen in the mixture? What are the number of moles of nitrogen in the mixture? What is the mole fraction oxygen? What is the mole fraction nitrogen?

In 1kg ,mass of O2 = 0.2 kg
mass of N2 = 0.8 kg
mole of O2 = 12.5
mole of N2 = 28.6

So total mole is 41.1 : mole fraction O2 = 12.5/41.1
mole fraction N2 = 28.6/41.1
 
thevinciz said:
In 1kg ,mass of O2 = 0.2 kg
mass of N2 = 0.8 kg
mole of O2 = 12.5

Moles O2 = 6.25
 
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Chestermiller said:
Moles O2 = 6.25

I see
 
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Chestermiller said:
Moles O2 = 6.25

Thanks I got the answer now, is it 6.25/6.25+28.6 right?
 
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