How do I handle Kronecker Delta in my homework?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Kronecker Delta in a mathematical context, specifically in relation to a problem involving differentiation and index notation. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the manipulation of the Kronecker Delta in the equation P,i = ( P*δij ),j.

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  • Participants explore the implications of treating the Kronecker Delta as an identity matrix and question whether it can be simplified in the context of differentiation. There are discussions about the meaning of the indices and the role of the Kronecker Delta in the equation.

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Some participants have provided insights into the properties of the Kronecker Delta and its behavior under differentiation. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions regarding the terms involved and how they relate to the original equation. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

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Participants note the potential confusion surrounding the treatment of the Kronecker Delta and its implications for the indices involved. There is mention of the need to clarify the definition of P and its relationship to the indices i and j.

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Homework Statement



I am a bit confused with how to deal with Kronecker Delta.
I need to show that P,i = ( P*δij ),j

The i and j are subscripts.

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P,i = ( P*δij ),j = P,j*δij + P*δij,j
I assumed I could get rid of P*δij,j leaving me with P,j*δij.
After this I am stuck. I'm not sure if I am supposed to consider Kronecker Delta as the Identity Matrix now or not. If I do, I end up with P,j which technically would equal P,i.
 
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What exactly is P here?
 
is it like this?

we have
{P * dij }j

since dij is 0 for all i,j except i=j where it is 1,

then {P * dij }j
= {P * 1 }i ==> since i = j
= Pii was taught to think of the kronecker delta as a sieving function, i.e, it 'sieves' out the index 'j' and replace it by 'i' , as per above
 
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P,i = ( P*δij ),j = P,j*δij + P*δij,j
I assumed I could get rid of P*δij,j leaving me with P,j*δij.
After this I am stuck. I'm not sure if I am supposed to consider Kronecker Delta as the Identity Matrix now or not. If I do, I end up with P,j which technically would equal P,i.
There's no need to assume the second term is 0. δij is equal to 0 or 1, so if you differentiate it, you get 0.

The second term isn't equal to P,j. The index j is a dummy index you're summing over. Just expand the summation out to see what's happening:
[tex]P_{,j}\delta_{ij} = P_{,1}\delta_{i1} + P_{,2}\delta_{i2} + \cdots + P_{,n}\delta_{in}[/tex]In only one term, the ith term, does the Kronecker delta not vanish, so you end up with P,i.
 

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