How do i integrate: square root of((x^2)-4) ?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function square root of((x^2)-4). Participants explore various substitution methods and integration techniques, including trigonometric and hyperbolic substitutions, as well as integration by parts and partial fractions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the appropriate substitution for integrating square root of((x^2)-4).
  • Another participant suggests using the substitution x/2=sec(θ) after rewriting the expression inside the square root.
  • A participant mentions reaching a point where they need to integrate (1/(cosu)^3) and expresses uncertainty about how to proceed.
  • Suggestions include using sec^2(u) to facilitate integration by parts, although there is skepticism about its effectiveness.
  • Another participant proposes expanding the fraction by cos(u) and using cos^2(u) = 1 - sin^2(u) for substitution and partial fractions.
  • An alternative substitution of x=2Cosh(u) is also presented as a potential method.
  • A participant discusses factoring out a cosine from the integral and converting the remaining terms to sine, leading to a form suitable for partial fractions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and methods for integration, with no consensus on a single approach or solution. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore different techniques.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about specific integration steps and the effectiveness of various proposed methods, indicating potential limitations in their approaches.

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how do i integrate: square root of((x^2)-4) i know i have to use substitution but what do i substitute?
 
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Well, I remember that [itex]sin^2(\theta)+ cos^2(\theta)= 1[/itex] and if I divide both sides of that by [/itex]cos^2(\theta)[/itex], I get [itex]tan^2(\theta)+ 1= sec^2(\theta)[/itex] and from that, [itex]tan^2(\theta)= sec^2(\theta)- 1[/itex]. That tells me that if I factor out a "4" from that squareroot, getting [itex]2\sqrt{(x/2)^2- 1}[/itex], I can the part inside the square root into a perfect square (and so get rid of the square root) by making the substitution [itex]x/2= sec(\theta)[/itex].
 
i used the substitution x/2=secu then i reached a point where i got stuck again:
4*integral(1/(cosu)^3) du -4ln(secu+tanu)
so how do i integrate (1/(cosu)^3)??
thank u.
 
Maybe (sec u)^2(sec u) would help and then maybe integrate by parts, but that probably won't work in the end either.
 
You could try expanding the fraction by cos u, then using cos^2 u = 1-sin^2, substitution and partial fractions.
 
Alternatively, use the substitution x=2Cosh(u)
 
That is cosine to an odd power. "Factor" out a cosine to use with the du and convert the rest (even power) to sine.

Here, the cosine is in the denominator so "factoring" out a cosine gives
[tex]\int \frac{cos(u)du}{cos^4(u)}= \int \frac{cos(u)du}{(1- sin^2(u))^2}[/tex]
Now let v= sin(u) so dv= cos(u)du and you have
[tex]\int \frac{dv}{(1-v^2)^2}= \int \frac{dv}{(1-v)^2(1+v)^2}[/tex]
which can be done by partial fractions.
 

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