How do I prove That Toricelli's equation, given here is correct?

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The problem involves proving the correctness of Torricelli's equation, which relates to fluid dynamics and the application of Bernoulli's principle. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the relationship between velocities and areas in the context of fluid flow through openings.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of Bernoulli's principle and attempt to derive relationships between velocities and areas. The original poster seeks clarification on the unknown components of the equation, while others suggest substituting variables and rearranging equations to find the necessary relationships.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to manipulate Bernoulli's equation. There is an acknowledgment of missing terms and the need for further clarification on the original problem statement. The original poster is actively seeking validation of their findings.

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The original poster mentions missing class content, which may contribute to their confusion. There is a sense of urgency due to an upcoming test, which may influence the depth of understanding being sought.

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Homework Statement



The problem is shown here, Problem # 48
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I know that V1 = Sqrt of 2*G (h)

But the A1^2 / A2^2 part is unknown to me, and I've spent hours trying to find an explanation, but now I'm here...

Can anyone point me in the right direction, please?
 
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Go back to Bernoulli's Principle. Find a relationship between V2 and V1 in terms of the areas. Substitute for V2 in Bernoulli.
 
In Bernoulli's equation I found that

V1 = V2 * A2 / A1
 
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Aliskahir said:
In Bernoulli's equation I found that

V1 = V2 * A2 / A1


Solve that for V2 in terms of V1 (since you're looking to replace V2 in Bernoulli's equation.

Can you write the equation for Bernoulli's principle for this case?
 
(Using D for Density)

If I replace V2 With the equation I get

1/2 DV1^2 + DGY1 = 1/2D (A1*V1/A2)^2 + DGY2

By the way, I appreciate your help, I'm lost mostly because I missed this particular day of class, and I'm trying to understand a friend's notes and the book. My test tomorrow is going to kill me =[
 
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Aliskahir said:
(Using D for Density)

If I replace V2 With the equation I get

P1 + 1/2 D V1^2 = P2 + 1/2 D (V1*A1 / A2) ^2

----hold on making revisions---

By the way, I appreciate your help, I'm lost mostly because I missed this particular day of class, and I'm trying to understand a friend's notes and the book. My test tomorrow is going to kill me =[


You're missing the potential energy term (D*g*h) on the left hand side. Remember, there's a height difference between the two locations. P1 and P2 are the ambient air pressure, which can be assumed equal at both locations, so they cancel. Solve for V1.
 
1/2 DV1^2 + DGY1 = 1/2D (A1*V1/A2)^2 + DGY2

1/2 V1^2 (1-A1^2/A2^2) = G (Y2 - Y1)

V1 = Sqrt 2G(Y2-Y1) / (1-A1^2/A2^2)
 
Yeah, I added it up top
 
Is it... correct? or closer to being correct? :confused:
 
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Aliskahir said:
Is it... correct? or closer to being correct? :confused:

Can't you compare it with what is given in the problem statement?
 

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