How do I reduce the amount of voltage in a circuit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to reduce voltage in a circuit, particularly in the context of powering a fan that operates at a specific voltage. Participants explore concepts related to voltage, current, resistance, and analogies used to understand these electrical principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how voltage is reduced in a circuit and questions whether resistors can be used for this purpose, noting their understanding of the relationship V=IR.
  • Another participant states that resistors drop voltage according to E=IR but emphasizes that using a resistor may limit current, potentially affecting the load's performance.
  • A suggestion is made that voltage regulator chips could be a better solution for reducing voltage for specific components like a 5V fan.
  • There is a discussion about the analogy of water in pipes to explain voltage, current, and resistance, with one participant proposing an alternative analogy involving a straw and a filter, while another supports the traditional pipe analogy.
  • One participant reflects on their long-term use of the water analogy and mentions that even prominent figures like James Maxwell used similar analogies to conceptualize electric fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to reduce voltage, with multiple viewpoints on the use of resistors versus voltage regulators and differing opinions on the effectiveness of analogies used to explain electrical concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of using resistors to drop voltage and the potential limitations this may impose on current. The discussion also highlights the complexity of analogies in understanding electrical principles.

Broly
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Hi,

I'm having a difficult time understanding how voltage is reduced in a circuit. I know the relationship of V= IR, but I still don't understand. I think part of the reason I do not understand is the wording used, and the other part is from experience. For example if I have a fan that only works properly at 5 volts applying more than 5 volts could damage the component, right? Would I use resistors to reduce the voltage? I thought that resistors only changed the current in the circuit. When I have measured the voltage by placing one lead of a multimeter on a resistor and one lead on the power output I didn't see a change in voltage, only current. By changing the current in a circuit do you simultaneously effect the voltage as well? Also I'm quite puzzled over the analogy of water going through a pipe being used to describe voltage, current, and resistance. It seems to me that it is more like water going through a filter in a straw being blown on by a person's mouth. In this case the harder you blow is like the voltage or pressure and the amount being blown by a point is like the amps and the resistance is like the size of the filter. Is this a good analogy?

Thanks in advance for helping me answer these puzzling questions.
 
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Resistors drop voltage E=IR
 
Doug Huffman said:
Resistors drop voltage E=IR

that's only part of the story

the real problem using a resistor to drop voltage is that it will limit the current. And it may limit it to less than what is required by the load

So @Broly tell us more specifically about what you are trying to achieve, so we don't have to keep guessing :wink:

You have a 5V fan, and I am assuming ( till you explain otherwise) that you only have a higher voltage PSU ?
Voltage regulator chips are the best way to overcome this problemDave
 
Broly said:
Also I'm quite puzzled over the analogy of water going through a pipe being used to describe voltage, current, and resistance. It seems to me that it is more like water going through a filter in a straw being blown on by a person's mouth. In this case the harder you blow is like the voltage or pressure and the amount being blown by a point is like the amps and the resistance is like the size of the filter. Is this a good analogy?

Water in a closed system of pipes is an excellent analogy for current in a circuit. The pressure between two points in the pipe is equivalent to voltage. It's the relative pressure between two points that matters, just as it's the voltage between two points in a circit that matters. Pressure goes up across a pump, just as voltage does across a battery or generator. And pressure goes down across a thin section of pipe, just as voltage is dropped across a resistor.

The flow rate, in say gallons per minute, is equivalent to current, in coulombs per second (amps).

I used to be embarrassed that even after decades of work, I still think in terms of water in a pipe to keep it all straight. But recently I read that none other than James Maxwell thought of electric fields as whirling vortices to help him keep things straight.
 

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