How do I solve for dP/dz in the ideal gas law using mass and density?

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The discussion centers on deriving the differential equation dP/dz = -mgP/kT using the ideal gas law for a mixture of gases, specifically dry air composed of 78% N2, 21% O2, and 1% argon. The mass of a mole of dry air is calculated to be 29 grams. The relationship between density (ρ), pressure (P), and temperature (T) is established through the ideal gas law, leading to the conclusion that dP/dz can be expressed in terms of the average mass of air molecules and gravitational acceleration. The key challenge highlighted is the proper definition of variables m (mass) and n (number of moles) in the equations.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the mass of a mole of dry air, which is mixture of N2(78 percent by volume, O2 (21 percent) and argon (1 percent).

Use the ideal gas law to write the density of air in terms of pressure, temperature , and the average mass of the air molecules. Show , then, that the pressure obeys the differential equation

dP/dz=-mgP/kT

Homework Equations



PV=nkT

The Attempt at a Solution



m(total)=.78(28 grams)+.21(16 grams)+.01(40 grams)= 29 grams

rho=m/V , from Ideal gas law, V=nKT/P ==> rho=m*P/nkT


I am having difficulties with show that dP/dz=-mgP/kT. I know other thread on the ideal gas law problem concerning the same problem I said that dP/dz=-rho*g. and I know that rho=mP/nkT, therefore I guess dP/dz=rho*g=mgP/nkT. The only problem is how would I get rid of n? Should I assume that they are talking about one mole of air and therefore n=1?
 
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you just need to be careful about your definition of m and n.
 
turin said:
you just need to be careful about your definition of m and n.

what do you mean?
 
There is a number of moles and there is a number of molecules. There is a molar mass and a molecular mass. In your equations, which ones are you using? You don't have to choose a particular number of moles in order to get the answer. You need to write the ideal gas law entirely in terms intensive variables and constants.
 

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