How do i solve this differential equation

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The problem involves a non-linear differential equation represented as x(y')² - (2x + 3y)(y') + 6y = 0. Participants are exploring methods to approach solving this equation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods for solving non-linear differential equations, including the use of the quadratic formula to isolate y'. There is some confusion regarding the initial steps, with suggestions to clarify the approach to solving for y' versus y.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on potential methods, including referencing a textbook chapter on non-linear equations. There is an acknowledgment of different interpretations of the first steps in the solution process, but no consensus has been reached on a single approach.

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Participants note the complexity of the equation and express uncertainty about the best method to apply, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

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Homework Statement


x(y')2-(2x+3y)(y')+6y=0


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i'm kinda lost on how to approch meaning what method to use..

all i know is that its a non linear differential equation...
 
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Whenever you want to solve a non-linear one, try all the simple approaches in the chapter on non-linear equations in any DE textbook. One of those will work here. Get a DE textbook, find that chapter, then go over the example on eliminating the dependent variable. The first step is to solve for y in the equation:

[tex]x(y')^2-(2x+3y)y'+6y=0[/tex]
 
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Perhaps jackmell meant "The first step is to solve for y' ". That is what I recommend.

That is a quadratic equation in y'. You start by solving for y' using the quadratic formula:
[tex]y'= \frac{2x+ 3y\pm\sqrt{(2x+3y)^2- 24xy}}{2x}[/tex]

It helps to note that [itex](2x+ 3y)^2- 24y= 4x^2+ 12xy+ 9y^2- 24xy[/itex][itex]= 4x^2- 12xy+ 9y^2= (2x- 3y)^2[/itex]!

The differential equation reduces to [itex]y'= 2[/itex] (using the "+") or [itex]y'= 3y/x[/itex] (using the "-").
 
HallsofIvy said:
Perhaps jackmell meant "The first step is to solve for y' ". That is what I recommend.

That is a quadratic equation in y'. You start by solving for y' using the quadratic formula:
[tex]y'= \frac{2x+ 3y\pm\sqrt{(2x+3y)^2- 24xy}}{2x}[/tex]

It helps to note that [itex](2x+ 3y)^2- 24y= 4x^2+ 12xy+ 9y^2- 24xy[/itex][itex]= 4x^2- 12xy+ 9y^2= (2x- 3y)^2[/itex]!

The differential equation reduces to [itex]y'= 2[/itex] (using the "+") or [itex]y'= 3y/x[/itex] (using the "-").

No, I meant y using that method but your way was much simpler. :)
 
i see i thought of quadratic formula them said nah don't know why now i see how it works out!
 

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