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I wanna synthesize 10 ml of Cedryl Acetate for my perfume. How can i do it?
How do I synthesize Cedryl Acetate for perfumery?
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The discussion revolves around the synthesis of Cedryl Acetate for perfumery, exploring the feasibility and practicality of synthesizing this compound versus purchasing it. Participants engage in a mix of technical reasoning and informal commentary.
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Main Points Raised
- One participant expresses a desire to synthesize 10 ml of Cedryl Acetate for personal use in perfumery.
- Another participant questions the motivation behind synthesizing a compound that is inexpensive to purchase, suggesting it may not be worth the effort.
- A participant notes that synthesizing Cedryl Acetate is likely straightforward if one has access to lab glassware, but emphasizes the need to acquire cedrol first.
- Concerns are raised about the legality and scrutiny associated with obtaining certain reagents, as some methods for synthesis are linked to illicit drug production.
- One participant argues that while acylation is used in drug synthesis, esterification is a common and basic procedure in organic chemistry labs.
- Another participant points out the irony of the cost of glassware potentially exceeding the cost of the synthesized product.
- There is a humorous exchange regarding the implications of lab regulations and the oversight of glassware inventory.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on whether synthesizing Cedryl Acetate is worthwhile, with some advocating for synthesis and others suggesting purchasing it instead. The discussion includes both technical considerations and informal commentary, reflecting a mix of opinions.
Contextual Notes
Participants mention the potential legal implications of synthesizing certain compounds and the need for proper lab equipment, which may not be readily accessible to everyone. There is also a reference to the varying costs associated with synthesis versus purchase.
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Why? Isn't that like $1 worth?
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Not in here...Vanadium 50 said:
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This is simple ester so synthesis is probably rather trivial if you have access to lab glass, but you will still need to buy cedrol - so why not save yourself unnecessary work and buy cedryl acetate instead?
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Do you have access to pure cedrol? If not, you will need to obtain cedar oil and perform a fractional vacuum distillation.
There are multiple ways to make acetate esters but since those methods are used to make heroin as well…. you could be scrutinized by who knows? Most of the reagents that are easily obtained are on “diversion” lists and purchases are watched.
Best to just buy some?
There are multiple ways to make acetate esters but since those methods are used to make heroin as well…. you could be scrutinized by who knows? Most of the reagents that are easily obtained are on “diversion” lists and purchases are watched.
Best to just buy some?
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Oh my.chemisttree said:
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... Entertaining the gentlemen wearing sport jackets and shoulder holsters is NOT conducive to 'Live Long and Prosper'; regardless of which side they are on!- #9
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Vanadium 50 said:
While it is definitely true that acylation is used in some drug synthesis procedures, it is a bit like claiming screwdrivers are for repairing guns.
Esterification with acetic acid (and the reverse process, hydrolysis of esters) are between those basic things commonly used in ChemOrg101 labs. Trivial to understand, in many basic cases simple to set up.
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Whew!
Still, it seems very odd to want to synthesize something that costs a few dollars at most. Heck, the glassware is more expensive!
Still, it seems very odd to want to synthesize something that costs a few dollars at most. Heck, the glassware is more expensive!
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Glassware is on watchlists as well. After leaving my research job at SwRI, I set up a lab from scratch. I was required to label and inventory almost all of my glassware and report it to the Texas Department of Public Safety. A Trooper came out to inspect my lab and paperwork!
Don’t Mess With Texas!
Don’t Mess With Texas!
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Or they may Tread On YOU!chemisttree said:
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I think that's South Carolina.Tom.G said:
Or Soviet Russia.
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You are certainly a lot closer than I was!
I remembered it as a Texas flag with a Rattlesnack and saying "Dont Tread On Me".
However Google/Wikipedia state, among other things, that:
(from:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=don't+tread+on+me+political+meaning)
I remembered it as a Texas flag with a Rattlesnack and saying "Dont Tread On Me".
However Google/Wikipedia state, among other things, that:
(from:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=don't+tread+on+me+political+meaning)
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