How do I use this equation? Estimating half-life of a decay

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The discussion focuses on the application of equation 8.18 for estimating the half-life of decay processes, specifically for Th-220 decay into C-12 and Po-208. The user encountered difficulties reproducing the expected half-life of 2.3x10^6 years due to potential errors in unit conversions and calculations. Key points include the importance of using correct values for parameters such as the Q value (32.1 MeV) and the correct conversion of femtometers. The equation is confirmed to be applicable for alpha decay, with suggestions to calculate ln(t1/2) for verification.

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How should I go about using equation 8.18? Link can be found below. In the book, an example is used where
Th-220 --> C-12 + Po-208 with a Q value of 32.1 MeV is used, and it is said to yield
t1/2 = 2.3x106 but for the life of me I cannot reproduce this result. This is what I did:
Going from left to right in the equation,
-for a/c i used (1.25*2201/3 x10^-12 m ) / (3x10^8 m/s)
-for V0 I used 35 MeV which was also given
-for mc^2 I used amu * 931.5 MeV/(amu * c^2)
-for h-bar * c i used ( 6.582x10^-10 MeV * s ) * (3x10^8 m/s)
-for z i used 6
-for Z' i used 84
-for 1/(4πε0) i used 8.988x10^9 Nm^2/c^2
half life equation.jpg


I used all SI units except for my MeV which cancel. But I keep getting an overflow error in my Ti-84 Plus. What could be wrong?
 
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llatosz said:
-for a/c i used (1.25*2201/3 x10^-12 m ) / (3x10^8 m/s)
Here's one problem (there may be others): 1 fm = 10-15 m, not 10-12 m. If you used the same value of a when calculating B, you need to fix it there, also; this might have a big effect because it's inside an exponential.
 
Ah you're right! But unfortunately it still didn't work. I calculated all the terms separately and that exponent is just way too high no matter what. I might just call this one a loss lol. I really appreciate your reply though!
 
llatosz said:
I used all SI units except for my MeV which cancel.
What about amu?
 
DrClaude said:
What about amu?
Yep, I used amu in order to be able to use the 931.5 MeV/(amu*c^2) too
 
Can you pin down which is the big number? For instance, the text above equation (8.18) indicates that x = Q/B should be << 1. Is it?
 
I just noticed that eq. (8.18) is for alpha-decay, not 12C decay; does that make a difference?
 
John Park said:
I just noticed that eq. (8.18) is for alpha-decay, not 12C decay; does that make a difference?
It shouldn't make a difference because this equation is flexible for any massive decay. For alpha decay, the difference between z and Z' would be 2, for 12C decay, z-Z' would be 6
 
John Park said:
Can you pin down which is the big number? For instance, the text above equation (8.18) indicates that x = Q/B should be << 1. Is it?
I remember the first multiplication term in the exponent was in the 8,000's. But I am afraid I lost my work for this equation and i really don't want to start again lol
 
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After a tiny bit of reading, I gather that 12C decay might be rather slow. What it look like if you just calculated ln (t1/2) ?

Edit: ignore this--you're trying to compare with a calculated result.
 
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After a bit more reading I find that the only listed decay processes for 220Th are electron capture, and alpha decay with a half-life of about 10 μs. See Wikpedia, "Isotopes of Thorium".

Edit: Not sure if the much slower 12C process would simply be ignored in the listings, if it''s real, or if there are grounds to question its reality.

Edit 2: See below.
 
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I found this useful:
/instruct/ch374/ch418518/Chapter%207%20Alpha%20Decay-rev.pdf

Equation (8.18) seems to give a reasonable answer for alpha decay (rough calculation, not checked). The factor in front of the exponential is very small and may reduce the product to the right level. I'd try finding ln(t1/2) and see if the result looks credible.
 

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