How Do Lorentz Transformations Affect Light Signal Velocities?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Lorentz transformations to analyze the velocities of light signals in different inertial frames. The original poster presents a problem involving the transformation of velocity components and seeks assistance in proving the invariance of the speed of light across frames.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to apply Lorentz transformation equations to the components of velocity and explore how these relate to the invariance of the speed of light. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the algebra involved in the proof.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on the approach to take, suggesting that the transformation equations should be substituted into the equation for the speed of light. The original poster acknowledges a mistake in their algebra and indicates that they are on the right track after receiving feedback.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions feeling stuck and possibly using incorrect equations, indicating a need for clarification on the algebraic manipulation involved in the proof.

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Homework Statement


Consider a light signal propagating in some arbitrary direction, with

vx [itex]\neq[/itex] 0
vy [itex]\neq[/itex] 0
vz [itex]\neq[/itex] 0 and

vx2 + vy2 + vz2 = c2


Use the Lorentz transformation equations for the components of velocity to show that


v'x2 + v'y2 + v'z2 = c2

Homework Equations



Combination of Velocities

v'x = (vx - V)/(1-vxV/c2)

v'y = (vy√1-V2/c2))/(1-vxV/c2)

v'z = (vz√1-V2/c2))/(1-vxV/c2)



The Attempt at a Solution



I know this is just a simple algebra proof but for some reason I'm getting stuck on it. Maybe I'm using the wrong equations?

I would really appreciate being shown where to start for this proof. Thanks in advance for the help and/or time.
 
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You should get the transformation equations for vx, vy, vz to the prime variables and insert them into vx^2 +vy^2 +vz^2 = c^2 to show this reduces to vx'^2 +vy'^2 +vz'^2 = c^2. Since the speed of light is constant in all frames, the change in frames should be invariant under the lorentz transformation. Just be careful with your algebra...if it starts to get too messy then you probably did a simplification that led you in the wrong direction.
 
Thank you. I apparently was making a stupid algebra mistake and over complicating it. Just knowing I was heading in the right direction helped. Made me find my mistake. Thanks again.
 
no problem!
 

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