How do multiple hulls manage underwater pressure in deep-sea structures?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility and mechanics of using multiple hulls or walls in underwater structures to manage external pressure at significant depths. Participants explore theoretical designs and the implications of pressure differentials on structural integrity, particularly in the context of deep-sea applications.

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  • One participant questions the effectiveness of multiple hulls in deep-sea structures, noting that submarines typically have depth limits due to pressure constraints.
  • Another participant suggests that multiple stages of pressure management are feasible but questions the benefits of such an approach.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that using multiple hulls could allow for the use of materials that do not need to withstand extreme pressures, potentially reducing costs and construction precision.
  • One participant challenges the notion that multiple hulls would reduce the overall stresses on the structure, arguing that the same global forces would still apply regardless of the construction method.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the practicality and effectiveness of multiple hulls in underwater structures. There is no consensus on whether this approach would provide significant advantages or if it would merely complicate the design without reducing stress on the materials.

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Participants discuss assumptions regarding pressure distribution and material properties, but these aspects remain unresolved. The conversation does not clarify the specific mechanics of pressure transfer between chambers or the implications of distance between hulls.

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Ok I am almost positive this doesn't work or it would be used in deep submersibles, but I am at a loss as to why.

About every 33 or 34 feet pressure underwater increases by 1 atm. So a submarine at 33 feet under water with 1 atm internal pressure would have 2 atm of external pressure. Increase that to 330 feet and you have 10atm which is a bit harder to handle.

I am not sure about the biology and what kind of air pressure humans are capable of breathing and living comfortably in but for simplilcity sake can just say that 1 atm is desired.

Now many materials can not withstand this kind of force, most submarines can only dive to 200-300 meters and this isn't even for extended periods of time.

But why doesn't multiple hulls / walls in the case of buildings work? My real question has to do with underwater structures.

Say you have something like this

(10atm)--| (7atm) | (4atm) | (1atm) |

A series of hulls and chambers with slowly reducing pressures. The outermost one is the water, and as you move in its a series of sealed chambers, or possibly open to a moon pool. until there is an inner chamber at 1 atm. Now would the 10atm pressure apply to all internal chambers? or would it only apply to the outer one? If it would pass through and apply pressure to all chambers how does it do this? would distance between the chambers matter? I have a hard time picturing an outer wall and then 20 feet of pressurized air and then another wall having a perfect transfer of force. It has been a long time since I have taken physics and feel I am missing something simple
 
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But why doesn't multiple hulls / walls in the case of buildings work? My real question has to do with underwater structures.

What do you mean doesn't work?

Multiple stages are perfectly feasible, but what would you gain?
 
needing materials that would not be required to withstand immense pressure say at 660 ft, a straight wall structure would not be able to withstand a 19atm difference without buckling. A series of smaller differences would make for less costly materials with less precision in their construction + allow for failure.
 
I'm sorry to disillusion you but there would still be the same global stresses/forces for the barrier to cope with, whatever its construction.

Imagine a ring, with 10 atm outside the outer circle and 1 atm inside the inner and some sort of internal structure between the rings. Whatever this structure it will have to conform as stated above.
 

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