How do switches and resistors affect a RC circuit's charge and energy output?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around an RC circuit involving a battery, switches, resistors, and a capacitor. The problem explores the behavior of the circuit as switches are closed, focusing on current flow, charge storage, work done by the battery, and heat dissipation in the resistors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the current flowing through the resistor immediately after closing the switch and the charge stored in the capacitor. There are questions regarding the relationship between the voltage across the capacitor and the battery voltage, as well as the work done by the battery compared to the heat dissipated in the resistor.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about specific calculations and relationships, particularly regarding the voltage across the capacitor and the work-energy equivalence in the circuit. Others provide insights into the integration of power dissipation and its connection to energy stored in the capacitor.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the implications of closing multiple switches in the circuit and the assumptions about steady-state conditions. There is an ongoing examination of the equations governing the circuit's behavior, particularly in relation to energy conservation.

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Homework Statement


Consider the electrical circuit consisting of an E = 6 V battery, two switches S1 and S2, two resistors R1 = 4 ohm and R2 = 2 ohm, and a capacitor C = 2 \muF. The internal resistance of the battery may be ignored. Initially the switches are both open and the capacitor has no charge. Close the switch S1 at a certain time. At a sufficient long time after the switch S1 is closed, the capacitor is fully charged and the circuit becomes steady.

a. Just after the switch S1 is closed, what is the current flowing through the resistor R1
b. How much charge is stored in the capacitor C
c. During the period in which the capacitor is charged, how much work is done by the battery
d. During the period in which the capacitor is charged, how much thermal heat is emitted from the resistor R1

Keeping the switch S1 closed, the switch S2 is also closed. At a sufficiently long time after the switch S2 is closed, the circuit becomes steady again.

e. How much charge is stored in the capacitor C long after the switch S2 is closed

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Homework Equations


Q = CV
V = IR
W = 1/2 QV


The Attempt at a Solution


a. I = V/R1 = 6/4 A

b. Q = VC = 6 x 2 = 12 \muC

c. W battery = 2 x W capacitor = QV = 12 x 6 = 72 \muJ

d. W dissipated = 1/2 W battery = 36 \muJ

e. I = V / R total = 6 / 6 = 1 A
V across Capacitor = I x R2 = 2 V
Q = CV = 2 x 2 = 4 \muC

Do I get it right?

thx
 
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b. is wrong
you have to consider the V in the capacitor not in the whole system.
 
I think because the capacitor has been fully charged, the voltage across it will be the same as battery.

Am I wrong?

And I'm not sure about my answer on c and d. I've read it somewhere but i don't know the reason why the amount of work done on capacitor is equal to the heat dissipated on the resistor

thx
 
songoku said:
I think because the capacitor has been fully charged, the voltage across it will be the same as battery.

Am I wrong?

Your answers all seem right to me.

And I'm not sure about my answer on c and d. I've read it somewhere but i don't know the reason why the amount of work done on capacitor is equal to the heat dissipated on the resistor

thx

You can calculate it directly. The power dissipated in a resistor is:

P = I2R

and here power is the time derivative of the energy dissipated (call that W), and you can also plug in the equation for the current in a charging RC circuit:

<br /> \frac{dW}{dt}=\left(\frac{V}{R}\ e^{-t/(RC)}\right)^2 R<br />

You can then move the dt to the right side, and integrate both sides. The left side just becomes total energy dissipated by the resistor W, and the right side (integrated over the entire charging time from t=0 to t=infinity) becomes equal to the energy stored in the capacitor.
 
When integrating the right side, is V constant?

thx
 
songoku said:
When integrating the right side, is V constant?

thx

Yes, that V is the battery voltage. Remember that the original equation for the current is:

<br /> I(t) = I_0 e^{-t/(RC)}<br />

where I0 is the initial current at t=0, which you found in part a to be the battery voltage divided by the resistance of the RC circuit.
 
Integrating both side I get W = 1/2 CV^2

Thx a lot alphysicist ^^
 
You're welcome!
 

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