How Do Temperature and Phonons Interact in Quantum Crystals?

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The discussion revolves around the interaction between temperature and phonons in quantum crystals, focusing on the specific heat behavior at high and low temperature limits. Participants explore the relationship between temperature and phonon frequencies, as well as the implications of Bose-Einstein statistics on phonon occupancy.

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  • One participant questions the relationship between temperature and phonon frequencies, suggesting that if temperature is proportional to phonon frequency, the low-temperature limit could be nonsensical.
  • Another participant explains that the phonon dispersion relation is primarily determined by lattice properties and is not significantly affected by temperature, with Bose-Einstein statistics governing phonon occupancy at different temperatures.
  • A participant refines their understanding by stating that temperature can be expressed in terms of phonon frequency and its probability in the distribution, indicating that low temperatures can arise from high phonon frequencies with low probabilities.
  • A later reply confirms the previous explanation, noting that at high phonon energies, the occupation fraction is small, resulting in fewer phonons being present.

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Participants generally agree on the role of Bose-Einstein statistics in determining phonon occupancy and the relationship between temperature and phonon frequencies. However, the initial question about the proportionality of temperature to phonon frequency indicates some uncertainty and exploration of the concept.

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The discussion does not resolve the initial confusion regarding the relationship between temperature and phonon frequencies, leaving some assumptions and conditions unaddressed.

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Hi!

I was looking at the high- and low-temperature limits of the specific heat in the quantum theory of cristals (Ashcrof&Mermin, Chap. 23).

To get the behavior under these limits, one consider first the case where T is large compared with all the phonon frequencies and second, when T is low compared to these frequencies.

But, the temperature shouldn't be (in some way) proportionnal to the phonon frequency? If this was right, then the low limit \omega\gg T would be a non-sense.

So I realize that I don't really understand the relation between temperature and phonons. Sure, I know that the number of phonon of each type will come to play, but I can't make a whole picture of all that in my head.

Can someone try to explain, or give some refs where this is clearly explained?

Thanks a lot,

TP
 
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The phonon dispersion relation (the ω-k relationship) is determined only by the lattice properties of the solid, and is not a strong function of temperature. Each point on the ω-k diagram corresponds to some vibrational mode of the system, and since phonons are bosons, the probability that a phonon exists in any given mode is given by Bose-Einstein statistics. Put another way, at every frequency/phonon energy, you have some density-of-states determined by the dispersion relation. But only a fraction of those states are filled, and Bose-Einstein statistics tell you how many are filled at a certain temperature.
 
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The phonon dispersion relation (the ω-k relationship) is determined only by the lattice properties of the solid, and is not a strong function of temperature. Each point on the ω-k diagram corresponds to some vibrational mode of the system, and since phonons are bosons, the probability that a phonon exists in any given mode is given by Bose-Einstein statistics. Put another way, at every frequency/phonon energy, you have some density-of-states determined by the dispersion relation. But only a fraction of those states are filled, and Bose-Einstein statistics tell you how many are filled at a certain temperature.

Hi Manchot,
Thanks for your answer!

To make my question more precise, thit is the answer that satisfied my curiosity :

There is two quantities that link phonon and temperature : the frequency of the phonon and its probability in the overall distribution. If you isolate T in the distribution, you get :
T=\frac{\hbar\omega_s(\mathb{k})}{k_B\ln(\frac{1+n_s(\mathb{k})}{n_s(\mathb{k})})}

where \omega is the frequency and n its associated probability. So for a given probability, the temperature is proportional to the frequency but for a given frequency the more the probability is small, lower is the temperature.

My question was something like : How can you obtain small temperature from hign phonon frequencies. The answer is simply that these frequencies must have low probability.

Your comments are welcome,

TP
 
^ Yes, that is correct. At phonon energies considerably higher than the temperature, the occupation fraction is small and so there simply aren't many phonons present.
 

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