How Do Tensor and Wedge Products Relate in Differential Geometry?

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between antisymmetric tensors and wedge products in differential geometry. Specifically, it establishes that if Cij are components of an antisymmetric tensor, then the expression C_{ij}dx^i\otimes dx^j corresponds to the 2-form C_{ij}dx^i\wedge dx^j. The participants clarify that the wedge product can be expressed in terms of the tensor product, emphasizing the importance of understanding the antisymmetry of the tensor components. The conversation also touches on the conventions used in mathematical physics versus pure mathematics regarding the definition of wedge products.

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  • #31
i am a little puzzled no one who went through bachmans book seemed to notice this discrepancy.

probably ordinary tensors were never considered there.
 
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lets see. if we consider the operation of interchanging entrioes in a 2 tensor, i.e. taking atensb to btens a, we geta linear endomorphism of the space of 2 tensors that is an involution, i.e. satisfies T^2 = I or T^2-I = 0. thus its minimal polynomial factors as (T-I)(T+I), and we hVE EIGENVALUES 1 and -1.

hence the space should decompose into eigenspaces of T-I and T+I, namely symmetric and antisymmetric tensors.

so this seems to be why every 2 tensor decomposes this way, from the point of view of spectral theory.but what to saY ABoUT 3 tensors??
 
  • #33
If we were to generalise this to general 3-forms. \omega \in T^{0}_{3} such that T_{ijk}=-T_{jik}. The thing I am trying to prove is that n-forms form a vector space, and to find the dimension of this space. To make generalisation easier, could you please clarify the following reasoning.

Would it be correct to split T^{0}_{3} into its symmetric and anti symmetric parts, S and A such that;

S_{ijk}=\frac{1}{2}(T_{ijk}+T_{jik})

and

A_{ijk}=\frac{1}{2}(T_{ijk}-T_{jik})

Then, as \omega[/tex] is by definition anti-symmetric, its coefficients must have the form of the A&#039;s. <br /> <br /> 1) The dimension would be the number of independent components of A yes? for the 2 form, this is easily seen from the upper triangular (not including the diagonal), which is just n(n-1)/2. My problem is trying to generalise three forms and upwards. Mainly because I can visualise the permutations very well.<br /> <br /> Thanks
 

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