How Do the Roots of Complex Numbers Vary in Distribution?

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The discussion revolves around the distribution of the roots of complex numbers, specifically focusing on the fourth roots of given complex expressions. The original poster presents two different scenarios involving complex numbers and their roots, questioning the differences in the distribution of these roots on the Argand diagram.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to understand why the roots of one complex number appear unevenly distributed while another set of roots seems to be evenly spread. They question how to determine the distribution of roots based on the given complex number.

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Participants are exploring the nature of complex roots and their distributions. Some have provided insights into the relationship between the roots and the unit circle, while others have pointed out potential misunderstandings in the original poster's assumptions. There is an ongoing examination of the methods used to derive the roots.

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The original poster is working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific methods or formats for expressing complex roots. There is also a mention of the half-angle formula in relation to cosine, indicating an alternative approach to the problem.

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say we had a complex number w^4 such that w^4 = -8 +i8\sqrt{3} so w = 2(cos(\frac{\pi}{6} + \frac{k\pi}{2}) + isin(\frac{\pi}{6} + \frac{k\pi}{2})) where k is an integer

in a question I was asked to find the roots of w, as there will be 4 my first assumption is that the roots would be spread throughout the argand diagram, i.e the first root would be \sqrt{3} + i and the second would be -\sqrt{3} + i and so on till I get the 4 roots. However this is not the case, as if I substitute values for k, I get the roots to be \sqrt{3} + i, -1 + \sqrt{3}i, 1 - \sqrt{3}i, -\sqrt{3} - i which is actually correct.

However in the question below, the roots do seem to be spread evenly:


Prove that cos\frac{\pi}{12} = m and sin\frac{\pi}{12} = n, where m = \frac{\sqrt{3} + 1}{2\sqrt{2}} and n = \frac{\sqrt{3} -1}{2\sqrt{2}}
Hence find in terms of m and n, in the form a + ib, where a,b are real, the fourth roots of 4(cos(\frac{\pi}{3}) + isin(\frac{\pi}{3}))

the first root is z = \sqrt{2}m + i\sqrt{2}n second -\sqrt{2}m + i\sqrt{2}n and so on...

why is it in one question the 4 roots are not spread evenly and I have to adjust k to find the roots, while in the other they are spread evenly. How do I spot whether or not they will be spread evenly?

thanks,
 
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hi phospho! :smile:

the fourth (or nth) roots of any number w4 (or wn)will be w times any fourth (or nth) root of 1 :wink:

ie w, iw, i2w (= -w), and i3w (= -iw)

(so this is wrong …)
phospho said:
Hence find in terms of m and n, in the form a + ib, where a,b are real, the fourth roots of 4(cos(\frac{\pi}{3}) + isin(\frac{\pi}{3}))

the first root is z = \sqrt{2}m + i\sqrt{2}n second -\sqrt{2}m + i\sqrt{2}n
 
tiny-tim said:
hi phospho! :smile:

the fourth (or nth) roots of any number w4 (or wn)will be w times any fourth (or nth) root of 1 :wink:

ie w, iw, i2w (= -w), and i3w (= -iw)

(so this is wrong …)

I have the answers in front of me, and they have the same roots that I gave above.
 
Why don't you simply halve cosine twice? To be more precise, \cos(\pi/3)=1/2 and we have the half-angle formula \cos^2(x)=\frac{\cos(2x)+1}{2}. Applying it twice should give you \cos(\pi/12), without the need of complex numbers at all.
 

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