How Do Valve Probabilities Affect Water Flow Paths from A to B?

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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving water flow through valves from point A to point B. The problem specifies that valves operate independently with a given probability and seeks to determine the probability distribution for the number of open paths after a signal is given.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the valves' independent operation and the probabilities associated with their opening. There is an attempt to clarify the meaning of the "signal" mentioned in the problem and its relevance to the flow paths.

Discussion Status

Some participants have begun to break down the problem into cases and suggest using basic probability rules. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the specifics of the signal and the distribution of water flow between the valves. The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding the signal and its probability, leading to assumptions about the operation of the valves and the flow distribution. There is a suggestion to seek clarification from an instructor regarding these assumptions.

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Homework Statement


Consider a system of water flowing through valves from A to B as shown in the diagram. Valves 1, 2, and 3 operate independently, and each correctly opens on signal with probability 0.8. Find the probability distribution / probability mass function for Y, the number of open paths from A to B after the signal is given (Note that Y can take on the values 0, 1, and 2.)
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Homework Equations


Probability mass function just means finding the probabilities of all possible outcomes

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand the question itself so I can't get anywhere (coloured in red). Does anyone actually understand what is going on in this scenario? I would truly appreciate if somebody can explain it to me.
 
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Start thinking this way:

when water comes in from A, it can go up or down to the different pumps.
If it goes to pump 1 there is some probability the pump operates correctly. If it goes to the bottom of the system, it pump 2 alone can operate, pump 3 alone, or both pump 2 and 3 can operate. Break things down by cases, and remember the simple multiplication and addition rules for probability. You may have to be creative in their use.
Why no more detail from this response? You need to show a little work first.
On the good news side, this type of problem is picky, and you need to watch details, but it isn't super complicated.
 
Thanks, but do you have any idea what is going on with the "signal" that the problem talks about twice?

And what is the probability that it goes to the bottom of the system? to the top of the system? Both 0.5?
 
Since there is no information about the signal (no probability information, or indicated source) I take that to mean this: each gate has an 80\% of opening when it should (so a 20\% chance of failing to open to water flow).
And yes, I would also assume (you may want to ask a professor about this, just to be sure) that when water comes in from A, there is a 50-50 chance that it flows up and down (or, equivalently, 1/2 of it flows up, 1/2 flows down).
 

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