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how do we know that c is the limit? and why is it the limit?
The discussion centers around the question of why the speed of light, denoted as c, is considered the ultimate speed limit in the context of relativity, exploring both theoretical frameworks and empirical evidence. Participants examine the implications of faster-than-light (FTL) travel on causality and the principles of relativity.
Participants express differing views on the relationship between FTL travel, relativity, and causality, indicating that there is no consensus on how these concepts interact. Some agree on the implications of the experiments mentioned, while others challenge the framing of the argument.
Participants acknowledge the dependence on specific assumptions and the unresolved nature of the implications of FTL travel on established principles of physics.
Actually, it's the principle of relativity (in SR) that is at odds with FTL travel and causality. If FTL had a special frame in which it works, there'd be no problems with the experiments. So, following JesseM: You can have exactly two of the following: FTL travel, relativity, causality.So in summary, if you want FTL, you have to give up causality, or you have to find something wrong with both the Michelson-Morley experiment and the Hafele-Keating experiment (as well as many others).
Ich said:So, following JesseM: You can have exactly two of the following: FTL travel, relativity, causality.