How Do You Apply Time Shift Properties in Laplace Transforms?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of time shift properties in Laplace transforms, specifically focusing on homework problems involving functions defined with unit step functions. Participants seek clarification on how to interpret and apply the Laplace transform properties from a provided table to solve the problems presented.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in interpreting the Laplace transform table and applying the time shift property, specifically questioning how to identify F(s) for the function f(t) = (t-4)u(t-2).
  • Another participant suggests that F(s) should be the Laplace transform of t, indicating that F(s) = 1/s^2.
  • A different participant raises a concern about using F(s) in the context of the right side of the equation, proposing to use G(s) instead for clarity.
  • For the second question, a participant attempts to apply the property '(e^at)f(t) = F(s-a)' to the function g(t) = (2e^-4t)u(t-1), suggesting a transformation approach but seeking further guidance on the next steps.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the application of the properties, as there are differing interpretations of how to define and use F(s) and G(s) in the context of the problems. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the application of the time shift property to the given functions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the correct identification of functions and their corresponding Laplace transforms, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of the properties and their applications.

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Hi guys, needing a bit of help understanding laplace transformations.

Homework Statement



1. f(t) = (t-4)u(t-2)
2. g(t) = (2e^-4t)u(t-1)
3. h(t) = 5 cos(2t-1)u(t)

Homework Equations



Laplace transform table.

The Attempt at a Solution



So basically I am given the laplace transform table, which also includes the properties. No derivation of equations is required. I am having trouble interpreting the table and somehow using the information to solve the question.

So.
Question 1;
the Laplace transform property I am using from the table is 'time shift' which says: L[f(t-a)u(t-a)] = (e^-as)(F(s))

So my equation is in the form f(t) = (t-4)u(t-2)
I change this to (t-2)u(t-2) - 2u(t-2).

this becomes (e^-2s)(F(s)) - (2e^-2s)/s
But what exactly should F(s) be?
I think I should try and understand the first question first before moving on to the other questions.
Cheers.
 
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indignant said:
Hi guys, needing a bit of help understanding laplace transformations.

Homework Statement



1. f(t) = (t-4)u(t-2)
2. g(t) = (2e^-4t)u(t-1)
3. h(t) = 5 cos(2t-1)u(t)

Homework Equations



Laplace transform table.

The Attempt at a Solution



So basically I am given the laplace transform table, which also includes the properties. No derivation of equations is required. I am having trouble interpreting the table and somehow using the information to solve the question.

So.
Question 1;
the Laplace transform property I am using from the table is 'time shift' which says: L[f(t-a)u(t-a)] = (e^-as)(F(s))

So my equation is in the form f(t) = (t-4)u(t-2)
I change this to (t-2)u(t-2) - 2u(t-2).

this becomes (e^-2s)(F(s)) - (2e^-2s)/s
But what exactly should F(s) be?
I think I should try and understand the first question first before moving on to the other questions.
Cheers.

In your work you made
f(t-2) = t-2
so, f(t) = t and F(s) is the Laplace transform of t. F(s) = 1/s^2.
 
It is confusing to put F(s) as part of the expression for the transform of the right side of the equation given for problem 1, because F(s) would typically be used for the transform of f(t) on the left side. So let's call the one from the right side G(s).

So to use the property, the let the term (t-2)u(t-2) = g(t-a)u(t-a)

what should g(t) be?
G(s) should be the Laplace transform of g(t).
 
I think I understand q1 (although I don't seem to be able to apply the knowledge to q2). Thanks.

For question 2; g(t) = (2e^-4t)u(t-1)

I use the property '(e^at)f(t) = F(s-a)'

I change g(t) to 2(e^-4)(e^-4(t-1))u(t-1)

I will ignore '2(e^-4)' since it is a constant.
so (e^-4(t-1))u(t-1) = (e^at)f(t).
What do I do now?
Thanks
 
I think this forum should have a 'solved' tag. (glorified bump)
 

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