How Do You Calculate Angular Motion for a Child on a Merry-Go-Round?

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The problem involves calculating angular motion for a child on a merry-go-round, focusing on rotational inertia, angular velocity, and the effects of changing positions on the ride. The subject area includes concepts from rotational dynamics and kinematics.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of rotational inertia, questioning whether to include the mass of the child with the ride. There are attempts to derive angular velocity from given parameters, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the equations used and the assumptions made regarding initial conditions.

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Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the equations and the setup of the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between the moment of inertia for a disk and a point mass, but there is still confusion regarding the calculations for angular velocity and the implications of changing the child's position.

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Participants note that the problem does not specify certain details, such as the number of revolutions or the time frame for part C, which may affect their calculations and understanding of the scenario.

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Homework Statement


Okay so this is a multi part question. I think I am on the right track, but I am most likely wrong. Any help is good. If I know what to use for the equations I can usually solve it on my own.
The question is:
A child of mass 40kg is on a merry go round. The ride is a uniform disk of mass 150kg and radius 2m. The child is hanging onto a pole at a distance of 1m. Her father, mass 80kg pushes on the ride with a constant tangential force of 100N.
A) Determind the rotational inertia of the system (child and ride)
B) Determind the angular velocity in rpm of the child after 5s
C) The man releases the ride and it continues at a constant angular velocity. If the child moves to the ouside of the ride, 2m away from the center, what will be the new angular velocity?


Homework Equations


A) This was the easy one. I=1/2mr^2
B) I think this one is θ=(ω/2)t (its really ωfinal plus ωinitial but the initial ω would be zero, so I canceled it out.
I doesn't specify the revolutions so I assumed that it was just one. (I hope that is right) But I think that would make θ=6.283rad
C) I have no clue. I feel like it would be the same as B but distance, the only thing that changes, isn't a factor. Also it doesn't give a new time or anything.

The Attempt at a Solution


A) 360kgm^2
B) 150rad/s if I did it right.
C) No clue
 
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LizAnn10 said:
A) This was the easy one. I=1/2mr^2

What about the child?
B) I think this one is θ=(ω/2)t (its really ωfinal plus ωinitial but the initial ω would be zero, so I canceled it out.
I doesn't specify the revolutions so I assumed that it was just one. (I hope that is right) But I think that would make θ=6.283rad

The question asks for ω, not θ.
C) I have no clue. I feel like it would be the same as B but distance, the only thing that changes, isn't a factor. Also it doesn't give a new time or anything.

Something has definitely changed; see part A.
 
Thanks for replying.
For A, I used the mass of the child plus the mass of the ride for m. Is that right?
For B, I just solved for ω, so it was really ω=2θ/t, so it was ω=2(6.283rad)/5s Is that right?
For C, I'm still not getting it..
 
LizAnn10 said:
For A, I used the mass of the child plus the mass of the ride for m. Is that right?
No. Disks and point masses (assuming the child as one) do not have the same moment of inertia.
 

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