How Do You Calculate Average Frictional Force?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average frictional force acting on a 0.5 kg block sliding across a table, given its initial velocity, final velocity, and distance traveled before coming to rest.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore relationships between velocity, acceleration, and force, questioning how to derive the average frictional force from the given parameters. There is a mention of using the equation Vf² = Vi² + 2a*x to find acceleration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the relationship between acceleration and the frictional force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinematic equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or methods to be employed.

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Participants express uncertainty about their understanding of the concepts involved and the calculations needed to find the average frictional force. There is a sense of frustration regarding the clarity of the problem setup and the methods available for solving it.

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Homework Statement


A 0.5 kg block is sliding across a table top with an inital velocity of 0.2 m/s. It slides to rest in a distance of 0.7m. Find the average friction force that retracted its motion.

m=0.5kg
vi=0.2m/s
vf=0
d=0.7m
ff=?

Homework Equations


vavg= vf-vi, then d/vavg= t, then a=vavg/t, then fnet=m*a, bleh that's all i can really think to do now :S


The Attempt at a Solution


vavg= 0-0.2= -0.2
t=d/vavg= .7/-.2= -3.5sec
a= -0.2/-3.5=0.057
fnet= 0.5*0.057=0.0287

:S i have no ide ahow to find average frictional force from this :S
 
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losthelp said:

Homework Statement


A 0.5 kg block is sliding across a table top with an inital velocity of 0.2 m/s. It slides to rest in a distance of 0.7m. Find the average friction force that retracted its motion.

m=0.5kg
vi=0.2m/s
vf=0
d=0.7m
ff=?

Homework Equations


vavg= vf-vi, then d/vavg= t, then a=vavg/t, then fnet=m*a, bleh that's all i can really think to do now :S


The Attempt at a Solution


vavg= 0-0.2= -0.2
t=d/vavg= .7/-.2= -3.5sec
a= -0.2/-3.5=0.057
fnet= 0.5*0.057=0.0287

:S i have no ide ahow to find average frictional force from this :S

To figure the force you need to figure the deceleration. But you won't find it by using the Average Velocity.

One relationship you can exploit is the Vf2 =Vi2 +2a*x
 
but what would that help me get :S
 
losthelp said:
but what would that help me get :S

You'd think if you had the negative acceleration you might be able to figure the Force that was retarding the block wouldn't you?
 
LowlyPion said:
You'd think if you had the negative acceleration you might be able to figure the Force that was retarding the block wouldn't you?

i probalay would if i had any idea what i was doing. :(
thanks anyways.
 

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