How Do You Calculate Average Speed in a Mixed-Speed Relay?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the average speed of a relay team consisting of a cheetah, a falcon, and a sailfish, each covering a distance L at their maximum speeds. The discussion centers around the correct application of the average speed formula and the implications of distance versus time in the context of varying speeds.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the total distance covered and the time taken by each participant, questioning the initial calculations and assumptions regarding average speed. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between distance, speed, and time.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants exploring different interpretations of the average speed calculation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct approach to summing times and distances, but there is no explicit consensus on the final calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concerns about unit usage and the accuracy of their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in adding fractions and converting units, which may affect the overall understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


The cheetah can run as fast as 113 km/h, the falcon can fly as fast as 161 km/h, and the sailfish can swim as fast as 105 km/h. The three of them run a relay with each covering a distance L at maximum speed. What is the average speed of this relay team for the entire relay?

Homework Equations


Average Speed = \frac{Total distance traveled}{Total Time}

Average Velocity = \frac{Total displacement}{Total Time}

The Attempt at a Solution


Each covers distance L, so a total of 3L, and the time it would take is their maximum velocity/L; 113/L + 161/L + 105/L. Is there some information I'm not accounting for?

I spoke with my professor and he had this to offer:
The average speed would be equal to one-third the sum of the three
speeds as you calculated if the three speeds were each maintained for
the same length of time. Instead, they are each maintained for the
same distance, which will give a slightly different result. Given a
distance and speed, you can calculate the time.
 
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cowmoo32 said:
Each covers distance L, so a total of 3L,
OK.
and the time it would take is their maximum velocity/L;
Double check that.
 
cowmoo32 said:
the time it would take is their maximum velocity/L; 113/L + 161/L + 105/L

This is incorrect, which is easily seen from the resultant units. What is the correct equation?
 
I'm bad about not using units. I really need to stop that. Ok, so the total time would be \frac{3L}{(113 + 161 + 105)} ... \frac{km}{km/hr} = hr
 
cowmoo32 said:
Ok, so the total time would be \frac{3L}{(113 + 161 + 105)}
Almost, but not quite. (But you have the right units now. Careful how you add those fractions.)
 
The total time is the sum of the times of all the participants. What are those times?
 
Doc Al said:
Almost, but not quite. (But you have the right units now. Careful how you add those fractions.)
\frac{L}{113}+\frac{L}{161}+\frac{L}{105} = \frac{L}{379} ...But isn't the total distance covered 3L? This shouldn't be so difficult for me, I don't know why I'm having so much trouble.
 
cowmoo32 said:
\frac{L}{113}+\frac{L}{161}+\frac{L}{105} = \frac{L}{379}
That addition is incorrect. (1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 ≠ 1/9 !) Convert each fraction to a decimal, then add.
...But isn't the total distance covered 3L?
That's true.
 
Well, how our teacher taught us, it's ALL the distance over ALL the time. Try following that.
 
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Gytax said:
Well, how our teacher taught us, it's ALL the distance over ALL the time. Try following that.
That's what he's been trying to do. See the first post.
 
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Doc Al said:
That addition is incorrect. (1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 ≠ 1/9 !) Convert each fraction to a decimal, then add.

That's true.
Unit L = 1

\frac{1}{113}+\frac{1}{161}+\frac{1}{105} = 0.0246

And the total distance is 3L = 3, so average speed would be 3/.0246 = 122km/h...correct?

That seems like a reasonable answer given the velocities of each.
 
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Looks good!
 
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Thank you!
 

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