How Do You Calculate Critical Temperature Using the Van der Waals Equation?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the critical temperature for a gas using the Van der Waals equation of state, with specific values provided for the parameters a and b. The context includes the conversion of units and the application of relevant equations at standard temperature and pressure (STP).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of units for the parameters a and b, questioning the correct application of the Van der Waals equation and the ideal gas law. There is uncertainty about how to incorporate the molar term into the calculations and whether the volume conversion is accurate.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering guidance on using the Van der Waals equation and addressing unit conversions. Some participants express confusion about the relationship between the parameters and the number of moles, indicating that multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There are constraints regarding the units of the constants a and b, as well as the need to find the number of moles involved in the calculations. The original poster mentions being stuck at the volume conversion, which may affect the overall approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement



calculate critical temp. for a gas obeying vander waal eqn of state . Give a = .00874 atm (cm)^6 & b = .0023 (cm)^3 for 1 (cm)^3 of gas at STP .

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unit of a is N (m)^4 (mol)^-2 , how do i get this mol term ?

(cm)^6 = (10)^-12 (m)^6 , pressure at STP is 1 atm = 1.013*(10)^5 N/m(sqr) ,

combining these two this equals

1.013 (10)^-7 N (m)^4 , to get the per mol term , i use the eqn of state PV=nRT where

p = 1 atm , V= 22.4 ltrs = 22.4 *(10)^-3 (m)^3 , R= 8.31 J/k/mol T = 273 K

I am stuck after this , is the conversion of volume correct ?
 
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What is the equation of state for a Van der Waal's gas?
 
[p+ a/(V)^2](V-b) = nRT
 
Critical temp. = 8a/27Rb
 
I use PV=nrt to get a & b for 1 mole of a gas but i am stuck at volume conversion
 
Then all you need to do is sub the values in for a and b, the volume doesn't come into it.
 
But R has unit in N/m(sqr) 1/k 1/mol , this mol unit will come into play if i put the values of a & b directly , have to remove it so i will have to change
 
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But R has unit in N/m(sqr) 1/k 1/mol , this mol unit will come into play if i put the values of a & b directly , have to remove it so i will have to change
Ahh true (sorry, missed that :redface:). However, you need to use Van der Waal's equation to find the number of moles that you are dealing with, not the ideal gas equation. After you have found the number of moles you are dealing with simply multiply your expression for the critical temperature by that number.
 
I am still not able to get the correct value
 

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