How Do You Calculate FeSCN2+ Concentration in an Equilibrium Lab?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the concentration of FeSCN2+ in an equilibrium lab setting, specifically focusing on the stoichiometry of the reaction between Fe3+ and SCN1- ions. Participants explore the implications of their calculations and the assumptions made regarding the volumes of solutions used.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the concentration of FeSCN2+ can be calculated by simply adding the concentrations of Fe3+ and SCN1-, questioning if this approach is too simplistic.
  • Another participant clarifies that assuming a 1-liter solution for both reactants leads to the conclusion that Fe3+ is the limiting reagent, resulting in a calculated concentration of FeSCN2+ as 2.25x10^-5 mols/2 liters.
  • A different participant challenges this approach, stating that it implies a concentration of Fe3+ of zero and an infinite stability constant, indicating a flaw in the reasoning.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the assumption of equal volumes for the solutions is incorrect, suggesting that different volumes could significantly affect the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the assumptions made about solution volumes and the validity of the proposed calculation methods. There is no consensus on how to accurately determine the concentration of FeSCN2+ given the information provided.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific volume data for the solutions used in the lab, which affects the accuracy of the concentration calculations. The discussion also highlights the importance of considering limiting reagents in stoichiometric calculations.

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Homework Statement



Hi! Okay so I have a question about the calculations for an equilibrium lab I completed. I have the equation

Fe3+ + SCN1- makes FeSCN2+

I know that Fe3+ equals 2.25x10 to the -5 power M and SCN1- equals 0.50 M.

. The attempt at a solution

Would I simply add the 2 together to get FeSCN2+? That seems too easy but it's all I can think of...thanks!
 
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xoilovemeryl said:

Homework Statement



Hi! Okay so I have a question about the calculations for an equilibrium lab I completed. I have the equation

Fe3+ + SCN1- makes FeSCN2+

I know that Fe3+ equals 2.25x10 to the -5 power M and SCN1- equals 0.50 M.

. The attempt at a solution

Would I simply add the 2 together to get FeSCN2+? That seems too easy but it's all I can think of...thanks!
First of all assume you have 1 litre of sol'n
so you have 2.25x10^-5 mols of Fe3+ and 0.50 mols of SCN-
The Fe3+ is the limitting reagent so you can only get 2.25x10^-5 mols of FeSCN2+.
(Imagine you are making Ham and cheese sandwhiches. You have 20 pieces of cheese and 5 pieces of ham. You can only make 5 sandwhiches. Only instead of cheese it is SCN- and instead of Ham it is Fe3+)
So you have 2.25x10^-5 mols of FeSCN2+ and we assumed we had 1 litre of Fe3+ sol'n and 1 litre of SCN- sol'n. So when we put them together we had 2 litres of sol'n
so the concentration of FeSCN2+ = 2.25x10^-5 mols/2 litres
 
Iodine said:
so the concentration of FeSCN2+ = 2.25x10^-5 mols/2 litres

That would mean concentration of Fe3+ is zero and stability constant is infinite. So it is not a correct approach.

xoilovemeryl: data you have listed so far is not enough to calculate concentration, it can be only approximated using stoichiometry (as Iodine did), but the value obtained is not the real one. I suppose you had more data to use in your calculations.

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This was a lab, so just as Borek said, you cannot just assume 1L of each. What if he used 1L of Iron and 10mL of SCN?
 

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