How Do You Calculate Input Impedance for a Transmission Line with an LC Circuit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the input impedance of a transmission line that incorporates an LC circuit. Participants explore the theoretical approach to solving a homework problem related to this topic, focusing on the relationships between various impedances in the circuit.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting from the right of the circuit to find the input impedance for the transmission line adjacent to the LC circuit, then combining this with the LC load to determine the overall input impedance.
  • Another participant proposes that the input impedance (Zin) would be in series with j30 and questions whether it would be in parallel with -j200.
  • A subsequent reply clarifies that Zin2 is in series with j30, but not in parallel with the capacitor, emphasizing basic circuit theory.
  • There is a correction made regarding the relationship between Zin2, j30, and -j200, with agreement on the series and parallel configurations discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to combine the impedances, with some proposing series combinations and others suggesting parallel configurations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact relationships between the impedances.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific impedances and configurations without providing complete mathematical derivations or assumptions, leaving some steps and definitions implicit.

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Hi,

I have a couple questions regarding a homework problem and would really appreciate some help.

Consider the lossless 50ohm transmission line shown below, which has an LC circuit inserted at some point along the line. If I want to find the input impedance how would I approach this problem? As far as I know, the characteristic impedance (Zo) is the same throughout the line since its independent of the length of the line. I'm thinking I should first treat the LC load as my load, take length=0.06lambda and find the input impedance as seen from the very far left of the circuit. Then I would do the same thing on the second part of the circuit and just add the two impedances, however I'm not sure if this is the correct reasoning.

Edit: I think that the two impedances found out with the above method might have to be considered in parallel to each other not in series.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4592/circuitdiagram.th.png
 
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Start from the right. Find the input impedance for the transmission line to the right of the LC part. Then combine that impedance with the LC part to get a load impedance for the transission line on the left.
 
Ok so the Zin I get would be in series with j30 and in parallel with -j200?
 
no

First, let's name this "Zin2" to distinguish it from the Zin from the picture you posted.

"Zin2" would go between the circles on the rightmost dotted line.

This is in series with j30, but not in parallel with the capactor. This is basic circut theory!
 
sorry I misread. ok, I agree that Zin2 would be in series with j30. But wouldn't j30+Zin2 be in parallel with -j200 then?
 
Sorry, I had made a mistake writing and I just fixed it. Zin2 should be in series with j30.

Zin2 + j30 is in parallel with -j200
 
No problem at all. I totally agree with you. Thanks for your help.
 

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