Transmission Line Homework - Determine Input Impedance

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the input impedance of a transmission line system, specifically focusing on the interaction between a quarter-wave transformer and various load impedances. Participants explore the calculations and conceptual understanding necessary for solving the homework problem.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about whether the input impedance for the first segment of the transmission line and the load impedance on the right are in parallel with the load impedance on the left.
  • Another participant questions the impedance looking into the quarter-wave transformer and its relationship with a 25-ohm resistor.
  • A participant calculates the input impedance of the quarter-wave transformer and the end impedance of 25 ohms, proposing that this impedance is in parallel with the load impedance at the second termination, resulting in an effective impedance of 20 ohms.
  • One participant confirms the logic of the previous calculation, noting the impedance seen looking into the quarter-wave transformer and its parallel relationship with the first load.
  • Another participant shares their findings of an effective impedance of 20 ohms and a total reflection coefficient of -0.429, indicating a sense of understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally seem to agree on the calculations leading to an effective impedance of 20 ohms, but there is some uncertainty regarding the initial approach and the relationships between the various impedances involved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the configurations and definitions of effective impedance may not be fully clarified, and the discussion does not resolve all uncertainties regarding the relationships between the components in the transmission line system.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals studying transmission line theory, particularly those encountering quarter-wave transformers and impedance matching in practical applications.

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Attached is the problem. I am a little confused as to how I should be approaching this type of problem. If I Determine the input impedance for the first segment of transmission line and load impedance on the right, is that going to be in parallel with Z_L on the left? I am assuming that "effective impedance" is referring to that total input impedance at the left of the diagram, but I am unsure.
 

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1. What is the impedance looking into the 1/4 wave xfmr? (Pretend there's just the xfmr and end-termination).
2. So is that in parallel with the 1st 25 ohm resistor or ?
3. You should wind up with just a 50 ohm xmsn line and a yet-to-be-determined termination, from which you can come up with the reflection coefficient.
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Number two is the very issue that I was having. I determined the input impedance of the 1/4 transformer and end impedance of 25 ohm to be Z_i=(50Ω)^2/25Ω. I believe this input impedance looking to the right would then be in parallel with Z_L at the second termination on the left side and that results in 20Ω. Is that logical so far?
 
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sandy.bridge said:
Number two is the very issue that I was having. I determined the input impedance of the 1/4 transformer and end impedance of 25 ohm to be Z_i=(50Ω)^2/25Ω. I believe this input impedance looking to the right would then be in parallel with Z_L at the second termination on the left side and that results in 20Ω. Is that logical so far?

You are doing fine. I'm wondering why that isn't obvious to you. You're looking into the 1/4 wave xfmr and you see 100 ohms, and your end is in parallel with the first 25 ohm load.
 
Sorry this is all super new to me. It makes sense now. I get an effective impedance of 20ohms and a total reflection coefficient of -0.429
 
sandy.bridge said:
Sorry this is all super new to me. It makes sense now. I get an effective impedance of 20ohms and a total reflection coefficient of -0.429

Right on!
 

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