How Do You Calculate Light Intensity in an Insulating Magnetic Material?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the intensity of an electromagnetic wave traveling in an insulating magnetic material, characterized by a specific dielectric constant and relative permeability. The original poster presents an equation from their textbook that applies to vacuum conditions and expresses confusion regarding its application in a medium with given properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to modify the intensity equation for a medium by substituting the vacuum permittivity and permeability with those of the medium. Questions arise about the assumptions made in the derivation of the intensity formula and the implications of using the speed of light in the medium.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different approaches to modify the intensity equation, while others are questioning the assumptions and derivations presented in their textbooks. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in applying the formula correctly in this context, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in their calculations and results, indicating potential misunderstandings about the modifications needed for the intensity formula in a magnetic medium. The discussion highlights the challenge of reconciling textbook information with practical application in this specific scenario.

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Homework Statement


An electromagnetic wave with frequency 65.0Hz travels in an insulating magnetic material that has dielectric constant 3.64 and relative permeability 5.18 at this frequency. The electric field has amplitude 7.20×10−3V/m.

What is the intensity of the wave?

Homework Equations


I = S average = 1/2 ε0 c Emax2

The Attempt at a Solution


the above equation is what I only have from my textbook, and it is for vacuum case. However, in the question, it has dielectric constant and relative permeability. I tried changing c into the light speed in the medium, not correct. I tried using equation from wiki, that is, times refractive index in the above equation, doesn't work. I tried simply ignore the refractive index problem, and doesn't work.
 
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Please show your working.
How do you know "it didn't work"?

You book should have shown you a derivation for the formula it gave you... check that you are accounting for all the assumptions correctly.
Your book should include some text about how EM fields are different in a medium.
Have a go deriving the formula for intensity in a magnetic medium.
 
Can someone help? I have literally the exact same question, which I already gave up on and have the answer for, but still don't understand.

My book says that the required modifications for the intensity in a medium are "simple." Replace ##\epsilon_0## with the permittivity ##\epsilon##, replace ##\mu_0## with the permeability ##\mu##, and replace ##c## with the speed ##v##.

I replaced ##\mu_0## with the permeability given, and replaced ##c## with the speed found in a previous problem, and still got the problem completely wrong (by many orders of magnitude). I did:
$$(Emax * Bmax)/(2*5.18)$$ and $$(Emax ^2)/(2*5.18*v)$$ [all with the correct substitutions as found in previous problems] and both ended up with the same result, which was wrong.
 
If you use I = .5*sqrt( ε0/μ0)(Emax^2) and modify it with the dielectric constant and relative permittivity like so
I = .5*sqrt( ε0*3.64/(μ0*5.18))(Emax^2)
 

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