How Do You Calculate Matrix Powers and Roots?

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The discussion revolves around calculating matrix powers and roots, specifically focusing on two 3x3 matrices. Participants are exploring the diagonalization process as a method to solve for A raised to the 100th power and to find the 5th root of another matrix.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of diagonalizing the matrices as a first step. There are questions about the meaning of the notation used for matrix exponentiation and roots. Some participants express confusion about finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors, while others suggest that understanding these concepts is crucial for proceeding.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and challenges in diagonalizing the matrices. Some guidance has been offered regarding the steps involved in finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors, but there is no consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that some participants may lack foundational knowledge about eigenvalues and eigenvectors, which is impacting their ability to progress. The discussion also highlights the importance of consulting textbooks or course materials for further understanding.

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Homework Statement


I. 3*3 matrix A (8 2 -2, 2 5 4, -2 4 5)

II. 3*3 matrix (1 2 0, -1 -2 0, 3 5 1)

Homework Equations


I. Solve Aexp 100 of 3*3
II. Find the 5th rooth of B matrix

The Attempt at a Solution


I. I got stuck at diagonalising the matrix. Is this OK 1st step ? If yes, what should I do next

II. Also here i started with diagonalising the matrix.
 
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Diagonalising the matrix is the first step.
 
math 2015 said:

Homework Statement


I. 3*3 matrix A (8 2 -2, 2 5 4, -2 4 5)

II. 3*3 matrix (1 2 0, -1 -2 0, 3 5 1)

Homework Equations


I. Solve Aexp 100 of 3*3
What is this even supposed to mean? ##Ae^{100}##? ##A^{100}##?
II. Find the 5th rooth of B matrix

The Attempt at a Solution


I. I got stuck at diagonalising the matrix. Is this OK 1st step ? If yes, what should I do next

II. Also here i started with diagonalising the matrix.
 
vela said:
What is this even supposed to mean? ##Ae^{100}##? ##A^{100}##?
Or, perhaps, ##e^{100A}##?
 
A100
 
OK, so what did you get for diagonalization? Where are you stuck trying to diagonalize it?
 
4 TIMES second row and 4 times 3rd row and distract from first row ?
 
1) Find the eigenvalues.
2) Find the eigenvectors
 
How ?
 
  • #10
Seriously? You were given a problem like this and do not know how to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors? Do you know what "eigenvalues" and "eigenvectors" are? If not then I guess you will just have to start multiplying matrix A by itself!
 
  • #11
math 2015 said:
How ?

HallsofIvy said:
Seriously? You were given a problem like this and do not know how to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors? Do you know what "eigenvalues" and "eigenvectors" are? If not then I guess you will just have to start multiplying matrix A by itself!
@math 2015, if you do not know how to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors, crack open your textbook to find out how these operations are done. Your textbook should have several examples showing the steps. If you have any questions after you have done your reading, you can ask them here, but this forum is not intended to teach you how to carry out these operations.
 
  • #12
I understand. What is the basic formula for calculating A100 finding the eigenvalues. Thank you all.I am new here. Do not be to harsh toward me. Thanks
 
  • #13
math 2015 said:
I understand. What is the basic formula for calculating A100 finding the eigenvalues. Thank you all.I am new here. Do not be to harsh toward me. Thanks
Apparently you don't understand. What we're saying is that you need to start reading your textbook to find out how this is done. This process is more complicated than finding a formula and plugging in numbers.
 
  • #14
eigen values are 0 and 9 (twice). can I found the A100 from diagonal matrix ?
 
  • #15
math 2015 said:
eigen values are 0 and 9 (twice). can I found the A100 from diagonal matrix ?

First of all, you need to determine IF the matrix is "diagonalizable". If you had three distinct eigenvalues, this would not be an issue, but when you have a repeated eigenvalue (as you do here), sometimes the matrix is diagonalizable, and sometimes not. What other information do you need to know in order to figure out whether the matrix is diagonalizable?

I would be willing to bet that this material is discussed in your textbook and/or course notes. People are suggesting that you actually read the material you have available; that is really the only way to learn.

If you do NOT have such material available to you (for some mysterious, hard-to-understand reason), please tell us. In that case we can suggest further on-line reading for you to pursue. Note, however, that our just telling you what formulas to use, etc., would not make sense: other writers/teachers have already written up this material and put it on line.
 
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