Is 5 a Primitive Root in Matrix Calculations within F13?

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The discussion revolves around verifying whether 5 is a primitive 4th root of unity in the field F13 and computing a specific 4x4 matrix F based on the entries defined as 5 raised to the power of the product of their indices, modulo 13. Participants are exploring the implications of these definitions and their applications in matrix calculations.

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  • Some participants attempt to clarify the definitions of F13 and the notation used for the matrix entries. Others question how to construct the matrix F and express their uncertainty about calculating its entries.

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The discussion includes attempts to define terms and clarify notation, with some participants providing definitions and others expressing confusion about how to proceed with constructing the matrix F. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary steps to compute F(hat) once F is established.

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Participants note the need for definitions and clarifications regarding the notation and concepts involved, indicating a potential gap in foundational understanding that may affect the progress of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


(i) Verify that 5 is a primitive 4th root of unity in F13.
(ii) Let F be the 4x4 matrix whose (i, j)th entry is 5ij in F13 for i, j = 0,1,2, 3.
Compute F(hat) and verify that F(hat)F= I.


Homework Equations


The matrix F(hat) is called the inverse discrete Fourier transform of F.


The Attempt at a Solution


I have already solved part (i):
Since 52 = 15 = -1 (mod 13) and 54 = (-1)2 = 1 (mod 13), we conclude that 5 is a primitive 4th root of unity in F13.

But I do not know how to obtain matrix F for part (ii), but I understand that F(hat) is the inverse matrix of F, so if I can find matrix F then I can easily solve for matrix F(hat). If someone can please help me out I'd really appreciate it.
 
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jmomo said:

Homework Statement


(i) Verify that 5 is a primitive 4th root of unity in F13.
(ii) Let F be the 4x4 matrix whose (i, j)th entry is 5ij in F13 for i, j = 0,1,2, 3.
Compute F(hat) and verify that F(hat)F= I.


Homework Equations


The matrix F(hat) is called the inverse discrete Fourier transform of F.

For those of us not familiar with this area and your notation, you need to give us definitions.

1. What is ##F_{13}##? I'm guessing integers mod 13?

2. What does ##5_{ij}## mean?

3. What is the definition of ##\hat F##?
 
LCKurtz said:
For those of us not familiar with this area and your notation, you need to give us definitions.

1. What is ##F_{13}##? I'm guessing integers mod 13?

2. What does ##5_{ij}## mean?

3. What is the definition of ##\hat F##?

Yes to your first question.

##F## is defined as the Discrete Fourier Transform, it looks like this:

http://gyazo.com/8d9c1acfec21ff3a180cc0b94d43e706

Notice the entries ##(ω)## are just the e'th root of primitive unity raised to powers.

Also ##\hat F## is defined as the Inverse Discrete Fourier Transform. It satisfies ##F^{-1} = \frac{1}{e} \hat F## where the entries in ##\hat F## happen to be the inverses of the entries in ##F##.
 
LCKurtz said:
For those of us not familiar with this area and your notation, you need to give us definitions.

1. What is ##F_{13}##? I'm guessing integers mod 13?

2. What does ##5_{ij}## mean?

3. What is the definition of ##\hat F##?

1. F_13 is a field of 13 elements.

2. My apologies, I meant to write 5^(ij).

3. I already defined that above. The matrix F(hat) is called the inverse discrete Fourier transform of matrix F.
 
jmomo said:
1. F_13 is a field of 13 elements.

2. My apologies, I meant to write 5^(ij).

3. I already defined that above. The matrix F(hat) is called the inverse discrete Fourier transform of matrix F.

Start by writing down ##F##. It shouldn't be too difficult to find ##\hat F## afterwards.
 
Zondrina said:
Start by writing down ##F##. It shouldn't be too difficult to find ##\hat F## afterwards.

That was my original question stated above. I do not understand how to write down F and wanted to see if anyone knew how to come up with the matrix for F so then I can easily obtain F(hat).
 
jmomo said:
That was my original question stated above. I do not understand how to write down F and wanted to see if anyone knew how to come up with the matrix for F so then I can easily obtain F(hat).

I posted it in my post above, but here it is again:

http://gyazo.com/8d9c1acfec21ff3a180cc0b94d43e706

Now, the question wants you to compute each matrix entry, namely:

##(5^{i \space \times \space j}) \mod 13## for ##i, j = 0, 1, 2, 3##.

What do ##i## and ##j## equal for the first row, first column entry in your matrix?

Now how about the first row, second column entry? Second row, first column?

Etc. Notice ##5## is the 4th primitive root of unity.
 

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