How do you calculate relative permeability in a loud speaker?

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The discussion revolves around calculating relative permeability in the context of a loudspeaker, focusing on the magnetic properties and equations related to current-carrying wires and magnetic fields.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the equations related to force on a wire in a magnetic field and the magnetic field generated by an air core coil. There are attempts to calculate magnetic flux density and relative permeability, with questions about the assumptions made regarding the components involved, such as the coil, magnet, and air gap.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and expressing confusion about the values obtained, particularly regarding the relative permeability. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations to consider, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or values yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, with some uncertainty about the assumptions related to the reluctance of the magnet and the values used in their calculations.

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i am a bit confused as to where to start on this problem, any hint will be appreciated.(problem attached)
 

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What is the equation for the force on a current-carrying wire in a magnetic field? What is the equation for the magnetic field generated by an air core coil? How can you use these two equations to help you solve this problem?
 
F=BLI
where B is flux density,L is length of conductor, and I is the current in the conductor.
magnetic field density=magnetic flux/c/s area
magnetic flux=mmf/reluctance
& reluctance=lenght of airgap/mew0 * c/s A
 
using f=BLI i found B=100T
next i used S=L/mew0*crosssectional area of air gap(L=10mm,c/sarea airgap=piD=3.14*0.001)
=2533029.59A/wb
next using H=IN/L(I=100mA,N=50,L=15mm this assumed)
=333.33A/m
but when i go to find relative permeabilty i am getting a huge value which i think is wrong.
apart from that my understanding is that i there are three elements involved here ie the coil,the magnet,the airgap(am i right?)but how do i find the mmf of the magnet bcoz i cannot find the reluctance of the magnet
 
How huge is the [tex]\mu_0[/tex] value that you are getting? The relative permeability of magnetic materials can be quite high, in the tens of thousands for some materials.
 
sorry for the delay in responding
the value i get for relative permeability is 238734.802
i will scan and attach the method that i have followed to solve the prob till now.
 

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