How Do You Calculate the Capacitance of a Sphere Using Only Charge or Potential?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the capacitance of a conducting sphere, given its radius and electric field at the surface. The original poster seeks to understand how to derive capacitance using either total charge or potential, but not both.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between charge, potential, and capacitance, with one suggesting a symbolic approach rather than numerical calculations. There is a focus on the definitions and formulas relevant to capacitance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to relate the formulas for potential and capacitance. The conversation indicates a productive exploration of the concepts involved, though no consensus has been reached on a specific method for the original poster's question.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need to use either the total charge or the potential, but not both, which may impose constraints on the approach taken. Additionally, there is a correction regarding the use of constants in the calculations.

Safder Aree
Messages
42
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement


Assume a conducting sphere has a radius of 3400km with an electric field of 100 V/m at it's surface.
a) Calculate total charge of sphere.
b)Calculate potential at the surface using infinity at reference point
c) Calculate capacitance of the sphere using the result of a or b but not both.

I know how to do all the problems but how do I go about doing part C while using only one of the results?

Homework Equations



-Gauss's Law
-Potential
-Capacitance

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
$$\oint E.dA = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0}$$
$$q = E(4\pi*R^2)\epsilon_0$$
$$q=100*4\pi*(3.6*10^5)$$
$$1.63*10^{14} Coulombs$$

b)
$$V(r) = -\int E.dl$$
$$= -\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \int_\infty^R \frac{1}{r^2}dr$$
$$=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0 R}$$
$$=\frac{1.63*10^{14}}{4\pi\epsilon_0(3.6*10^5)}$$
$$4.07*10^{28} J$$

c) $$C = \frac{Q}{\Delta V}$$.
I have no idea how to appraoch it using only variable. I know the answer must be Q/V from a and b.
Thank you for any guidance.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
You will see it immediately if you stop thinking in terms of numbers and start thinking in terms of symbols. You have ##V = \frac{q}{4 \pi \epsilon_0r}## and ##V = \frac{q}{C}##. Put it together. Capacitance is a geometric quantity and depends neither on ##q## nor on ##V##.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Safder Aree
Safder Aree said:

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
$$\oint E.dA = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0}$$
$$q = E(4\pi*R^2)$$
You forgot ε0
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Safder Aree
ehild said:
You forgot ε0
You're right, it just slipped me while typing it up.
 
kuruman said:
You will see it immediately if you stop thinking in terms of numbers and start thinking in terms of symbols. You have ##V = \frac{q}{4 \pi \epsilon_0r}## and ##V = \frac{q}{C}##. Put it together. Capacitance is a geometric quantity and depends neither on ##q## nor on ##V##.

I understand now, thank you for the clarification.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
1K
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
771
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
23
Views
5K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K