How Do You Calculate the Center of Mass with Non-Constant Density Using Vectors?

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This discussion focuses on calculating the center of mass for an object with non-constant density using vector calculus. The primary formula used is M\overrightarrow{R_{cm}} = \int \overrightarrow{r} dm, with specific integration limits defined by the curves x² and √x. The conversation highlights the challenges of incorporating varying density into the calculation, emphasizing that density should be treated as a scalar function rather than a vector. The final result for the center of mass with constant density is \frac{9}{20}i + \frac{9}{20}j.

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I am looking for a way to find the center mass of an object whose area is enclosed by x^{2} and \sqrt{x} without computing the x and y separately (a great deal of paperwork).

So...

M\overrightarrow{R_{cm}} = \int \overrightarrow{r} dm

\sigma = \frac{M}{A} = \frac{dm}{dA}

\sigma A \overrightarrow{R_{cm}} = \int \sigma \overrightarrow{r} dA

\overrightarrow{R_{cm}} = \frac{\int\int \sigma \overrightarrow{r} dy dx } {\int \sigma (f(x)-g(x))dx}

Because they are constants, the sigmas cancel and I eventually end up with...

\overrightarrow{R_{cm}} = \frac{\int^1_0\int^{x^{2}}_{\sqrt{x}} (xi+yj) dydx}{\int^1_0 x^{2} - \sqrt{x} dx}

(The answer is \frac{9}{20}i + \frac{9}{20}j)

But what happens when sigma/density is not constant, but is given a value say... xi or something like that? Obviously taking the dot product will not work, and I am unsure about the cross product (I haven't done a lot of vectors).

-Ataman
 
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What do you mean that the dot product won't work? I don't see any dot product in the above derivation.
 
In the above derivation, the density is constant, so it is not defined by a vector.

What I am looking for is a case where there is a varying density within the region.

-Ataman
 
Ataman said:
In the above derivation, the density is constant, so it is not defined by a vector.

What I am looking for is a case where there is a varying density within the region.

-Ataman

Why define it as a vector? Why not make it as a function of the position vector?
 
That's what I meant. Excuse me.

-Ataman
 
Ataman said:
That's what I meant. Excuse me.

-Ataman

Then don't you know the answer?
 
Then it is still not a vector. "Density" is a numeric value, not a vector function. You don't need a "dot product", you just have a scalar product- multiply each component of the position vector by the density function.

You should notice that you aren't really doing less work that if you did x and y as separate integrals. Since \int u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j} dx= \int u\vec{i}dx+ \int v\vec{j}dx you are just writing two integrals as if they were one.
 

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